500-year flood in Michigan

Media blames global warming, but I think it’s an indication that we’re headed into the next ice age.

For starters, look at where this occurred.

“Areas where colding should become noticeable during an oncoming glaciation should correspond to areas where thick ice is known to have existed during previous glaciations,” reader ‘Watchdog’ points out.

“This regional map of Canada and the USA is an indicator.”

Michigan hit with ‘500-year’ flooding,” reads the headline.

Rising flood waters, already as high as five feet, submerged parts of the central Michigan on Wednesday after days of heavy rain led to the failure of two dams and the evacuation of thousands of people.

The National Weather Service (NWS) warned of “life-threatening” flooding as water levels of the Tittabawassee River in Midland, about 120 miles northwest of Detroit, reached historic levels and were expected to continue rising.

“Experts are describing this as a 500-year event,” said Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. “It is going to have a major impact on community and on our state for the time to come.”

The website clickondetroit blames global warming, and believe it or not, I think they’ve got it partially right.

They explain it this way:

“Extreme precipitation events are definitely occurring more often, and there is a very simple reason why: as Earth warms, more ocean water is evaporating into the atmosphere.

“Since it is this atmospheric humidity that storms turn into precipitation, storms now have more “juice” to work with, and are producing more extreme precipitation events worldwide as a result (and yes, that also includes snow).”

I would need them to change only one word, and I could agree with the above statement. If they would change the one word, ‘Earth,’ to ‘ocean warming,’ I could agree with them.

Of course, as you already know if you’ve read Not by Fire but by Ice, I think ocean warming is driven by underwater volcanoes, not by humans.

As I keep saying over and over again: “Warmer oceans and colder skies…a deadly combination. (Underwater volcanoes heat the seas while above-water volcan0es cool the skies.)




“They say it’s a 500 year event,” says reader David Dean. “Well maybe it’s 10,500 year event.”

16 thoughts on “500-year flood in Michigan”

  1. Got to totally ignore those retards in the socialist/communist media.
    All this flooding and late season record snows are indications of climate cooling and the next ice age.

  2. The Alarmists story is an ever-changing story. Al Gore was adamant that global warming meant droughts and parched Earth.

    Gore showed Mount Kilimanjaro losing snow. He showed Lake Chad dried up. Gore said “this is what global warming looks like.”

    On the other hand Solar Physicist Heinrik Svensmark was ridiculed by the Alarmists. He correctly predicted that clouds will increase rapidly as solar activity declines, and cosmic radiation increases in our atmosphere. Svensmark was right.

    Increased clouds can only means more sunlight being reflected away(cooling), more rain, snow, hail and the flooding that goes with it.

  3. Also two at once dam failures was maybe another 1:500 year coincidence like a building seven failure or levees-failed/bombed-new-orleans?

    Michigan governor wants investigation of dam failures that have caused devastating flooding
    Lotsa M-m-m-my Sharona spin


  4. 500 years put you in maunder minimum. Looks at maps mad of California in the around 1600 and they thought it was islands. maybe they had a 500 year flood then. The weather people know california gets a mega flood every 160-200 years. Sacramento was under 10ft of water and Standford could not moves into the governors residence.

    A flood like that today would cost 700 billion.

  5. I think Robert’s book could equally have been called
    “Not by Fire but by Rain”
    as the current destruction of agricultral production is largely down to rain as well as frost and hail.

    I think his ideas about ocean warming due to marine volcanic activity are quite logical and in combination with increased cosmic ray cloud nucleation are resulting in worldwide flooding events that I watch on other sites but strangly don’t get reported on this site.

    • Increased Volcanism from, Not by Fire, but by Precipitaion:)
      Warmer seas and colder skies . . . a deadly combination.
      What happens to steam when it cools? It condenses. That moisture had to have condensed and fallen to the ground. Rains of Biblical proportions had to have pounded on the newly risen mountains and eroded them, sending torrents of mud and water into swollen rivers and streams and back to the thirsty seas.
      And flood it did.
      That’s how dinosaur bone quarries such as the Red Deer River in Alberta, and Dinosaur National Monument in Utah, were created. Dinosaur bones are “stacked like cordwood in a logjam” in those massive dinosaur graveyards, sometimes more than ten stories deep. How do you get ten-story stacks of bones? From ten-story floods, of course.
      Underwater Volcano Creates Bubbles More Than a Quarter-Mile Across

      I “sailed” motored with sails and boom tied down actually as it is way way to rough directly over Kick ’em Jenny:
      a number of times prior to Y2K – going between St Vincent and Grenada. (peaks of water jumping up 6′ all around for miles – looked like massive fish jumping) – “they” didn’t call it an underwater volcano back then – was described as some wind over current phenomenon/BS. Wouldn’t try that today. Now it has an official 3 mile “maritime exclusion zone”. Bubbles of volcanic gases can lower water density, creating a sinking hazard.[10] This is marked on marine charts. During periods of high level seismic activity this is increased to five kilometres (3.1 mi). Coulda been disappeared without a trace like the in the Bernuda Triangle, luckily we never drove into a Bubbles More Than a Quarter-Mile Across – yikes.

  6. I have no idea how “normal” it is?
    but ive sent a link to Robert about a pic on spaceweathrs page today..its a shot from their hi atmos balloon and theres a fair whack of snow on the sierra nevadas

    • AH dose your boiling pot on the stove cool ? Only when you turn off the stove. The stove is being turned on , Not off. Thus warmer Oceans. That what happen last time I boiled water and steam in the room, Rain. Let it snow let it snow. Big Cheese burger ahead.
      David Dean

  7. Greetings, 10 or so years ago flying home from the east coast, we flew over the flood event of the Yellow Stone… I had not seen a water event cover SO much land before. Then 2 years ago there was another event that seems to be forgotten. Massive spring snow in the NW plains (killed off much of the calf crop), then normal temps came and record flooding happened through the river system leading into the Mississippi that was already at flood stage.
    My point to this, is it is strange that rural communities that have ruined fields, bridges gone, grain storage terminals lost, railroad heads gone and towns under 15 foot plus of water… seem to recover (eventually) no matter what the title of the flood event.
    What should be noted in this Michigan event is that 2 dams failed…WHY is the question and it leads to this… the political theater HAS NOT put the tax dollar into infrastructure repair/maintenance.

  8. RE: “Underwater volcanoes heat the seas”

    Would underwater volcanic gasses – such as SO2 – rise up through the water and make their way up into the Atmosphere?

  9. People often misunderstand what the “X-year” flood means. The easiest way to explain (more intuitive for me at least, don’t need to redo the math)… is that a “100-year flood” is NOT the flood that you can expect once every 100 years. NO, it’s the flood that has a 1% chance of happening in any given year, based on historic data. You can have multiple “100-year floods” in a given year. So a “500-year flood” has a considerably lower probability of occurring in any given year.

    In no case is flooding due to dam failure included in that either. Part of the difficulty in predicting potential for dam failures is that a dam in the US would be built (nowadays, not older dams and not privately owed dams) is designed to withstand flooding from runoff produced by what is determined to be the “maximum creditable rainfall event”. That is based on historical data at the time when that specific dam was built. In theory then the dam becomes part of the flood control system.

    Which conceptually makes sense, BUT because that is based on when the dam was built. In any area where there has been increased land development upstream… you can get significantly more runoff. It mainly depends on the type of development, but in general buildings and any non-permeable surface will produce 100% of runoff… irrespective of whether of not the amount of rainfall increases.

    A good guideline for understanding flood risks in any area in the US would be to get hold of a copy of the Master Plan of Drainage, usually available from the water department or public engineering (tho some of those departments are notoriously unwilling to share that info. But you may be able to find it in a public library.

    A good guideline for understanding dam failure risks (in the US) would be documents from the Safety of Dams program (Federal) https://www.fema.gov/national-dam-safety-program or Bureau of Reclamation https://www.usbr.gov/ssle/damsafety/trn_domestic.html

    New Federal dams are required to do public safety assessments of the risk to populations and property before building new dams. For example: https://www.usbr.gov/mp/sod/projects/sisk/

    But again, when land use upstream is changed.. .it can change the results.

    or for a specific public dam in some locations (California at least) they should have that kind of information in General Plans, Specific Plans, and other environmental planning documents.

  10. Can you send this rain over to London and the SE of England?

    We have had under 15mm of rain since March 9th.

    Four inches over here would do the world of good.

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