Brazenly lying to us to keep us in fear

And trying to keep us divided.

Brazenly lying to us to keep us in fear

And trying to keep us divided
Jack Hydrazine

99% of the Americans (with underlying health problems) who have died from the coronavirus have an average age of 80.

Why shut down America over a relatively very few, sick, elderly folk that the coronavirus kills when there are so many other things that are killing in much, much larger numbers?

Let’s look at the statistics per the CDC.

Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
Diabetes: 83,564
Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis: 50,633
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173

Coronavirus? 50

How does that compare to the 22,000 Americans, young and old, who have died from the flu so far this flu season? It’ll probably be about 40,000 by the time the flu season is over.

Why aren’t the government and media getting the public into an apocalyptic panic and hysteria over that?

The government and media say that the case fatality rate in America is 3.4% without extensive testing of the population. How did they come to that number?
The South Koreans found their case fatality rate is about 0.67% with extensive testing.

This panic and hysteria about the coronavirus is doing more harm to America than the virus itself.

How long will we suffer the fools in government and media who brazenly lie to us to keep us in fear and try to keep us divided?

44 thoughts on “Brazenly lying to us to keep us in fear”

  1. For the last four years media tried to take President Trump down.
    They failed miserably. Media used the coronavirus to create panic and to destroy our economy, the biggest achievement of Trump presidency.

    • Not just yours mate. Europe is now ‘the epicentre of coronavirus’.

      All our sport is shut down, the elderly are being told not to even go out. Travel will be suspended soon, schools may well be shut down.

      I mean: how do you miraculously look after 10 million children if the organisations tasked with doing so are shut down?

      This is global economic terrorism, pure and simple.

      People need to realise that, shout it from the rooftops and if appropriate, exercise their right to bear arms and use them against the terrorists.

      Many are American (many are not), almost all are very rich indeed.

    • If that was the idea to drag Trump down
      I remember reading that IF a national emergency /disaster/war is declared elections cant be held until its over OR the incumbent died.
      dont think its changed but maybe you americans can go suss it out?
      from what Ive gathered it seems to be a fairly universal ruling for most govts.

  2. Gee, I thought we weren’t going to talk about that anymore. Kenneth is going to get his shorts in a twist, lol!

  3. Just ignore all that shit! Keep on trucking and working and go out to restaurants and order some Corona beers to prove a point!!
    The restaurant workers are already laughing at all this BS yesterday when I was there. Everything is just fine!
    Don’t fall for the BS and smash your television!

    • Kenneth and others.
      please help me out here.
      I am a fit old geezer (78) I play golf around an Open venue 3 or 4 times a week and usually hump my clubs.
      You see I have been told the world will end in 9,10 or 11 years time.
      Do you think it is worth my money/time to get a new set of clubs?
      If you agree and you happen to know someone who will exchange a new set of Pings for 6 nearly new toilet rolls the administrator has my e mail address.

  4. Whoops, wrong thread. How ’bout this instead. So far this year, about 600k citizens of the U.S. have died. About 60 have died from the Commie Cough. Wake me up when the percentage rises from about 0.01% to about 1%. Thank you.

    P.S. I’m an excellent driver. But, but, I shall not ride in a plane, nor minister to the ill.

  5. I am 81, heart and a few other problems, and too many old folks want themselves protected and to hell with everything else. We’ve had a great deal to do with putting this country in debt to far it will never be paid back. Let our kids on to our great g g g kids do it! We expect the young to die in war to protect our rear-ends, but run like hell when it might be us to die. No wonder so many young people are becoming Socialists! Fiddlin

  6. We can expect any news reporting on the virus to be highly biased as with most of the rest of their current affairs reporting. What is going on with this disease will be difficult to ascertain.

    It does appear that the political and governmental reaction is over the top. I have read that for 80% of the people contracting the COVID-19 virus the symptoms are no worse than the ordinary flu. Only a few relatively have really serious problems though those few are greater in number than for the ordinary flu. Still it would seem reasonable that medical efforts should be directed at those most at risk. The current response seems to be postulating 100% mortality for the effort appears to be directed at suppressing the total number of infections indiscriminately.

    Moreover, the language of the media seems bent on whipping up as much panic as possible. It is somewhat hard to tell since fear mongering is their natural style in any case. Nevertheless, now that the virus is here we need to consider if the response to it covers over some other agenda.

    In Europe US troops arriving for the coming war games are exempt from European restrictions to fight the corona virus. This suggests neither the Administration nor the army particularly fear this disease. It has also been suggested that the effort to hype this virus as a pandemic is to mask coming food shortages and other economic dislocations and provide an after the fact justification for why such dislocations occurred.

    We note that the markets have crashed. However, the gathering economic weakness has been written about and talked about for years with the interested following the slowly weakening statistics. There is no surprise in the coming economic contraction except to those who chose not to look. This contraction has long been expected to be serious–depression level, in fact. The virus may be intended to be used as a scapegoat which means the virus must be hyped to a level of importance sufficient to justify the claims of causation.

    The UK government is apparently assuming that the virus will sweep through the population there and become endemic. The UK government does not seem to be showing fear of this virus either. Does this official reaction suggest that we need to panic?

    Actually the UK position seems to be a reasonable long term outcome for a virus that is now so widely spread. However, many are condemning such reasoning and are calling for the total suppression of the virus. Is it mere panic or is there more behind this total effort to suppress the virus? Is the virus dangerous in a way the numbers do not seem to justify?

    Some are calling for a World War II level of response to the virus. This is indeed interesting because according to the Strauss and Howe theory of generational cycles now is the time for another great war or crisis. The three already passed in American history are the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, and the Great Depression and WWII. Is the fourth time to consist of depression and the consequences of Corona Virus panic?

    According to the generational theory constructed by Strauss and Howe now is a time in which all actions are likely to evoke extreme reactions. Thus if some people are attempting a manipulation or even if they are not but simply acting the consequent response may be expected to be extreme. It is likely the next 10 years will contain some violent event to compare with the three wars mentioned above. We already live in extraordinary times. These times are not likely to be over soon but how they are viewed now and after the fact may be very different.

    It is important to keep one’s eyes open. The coming of the Corona Virus does not seem to equate to the coming of the Black Death, but if people think it so all sorts of strange things could happen.

  7. Study out of China showed the average age of deaths is 55… To get that number, a lot of much younger people also died… Keep in mind the Dr. who raised the alarm in China was 33 and also died, along with a nurse he worked with, who was 24 and both were in good health. Sooo… All anyone needs to do is watch Italy, since we are about 10 days or so behind them. Let’s figure the exponential growth and the CDC’s own calculations, if Covid19 is not slowed down drastically….Up to 1.7 million Americans could die with hospitals overrun, which would Equal All THE ABOVE DEATHS COMBINED…I see Co2 Global Warming as the Worlds GREATEST Hoax, but this is NOT one…Those who bury their heads in the sand on this one, are only showing their…biggest part left above ground…World Governments aren’t destroying their economies because this is just like the Flu… Covid19 is unlike anything else that’s been seen in a generation. On a lighter note, I have 2 grown kids, a Cop (his wife works in a major hospital lab) and a Nurse (husband repairs oil and chemical plants) One lives in a suburb of a major city and one lives in a very small town. I asked them yesterday how they were fixed for TP, since everyone is now about all out and both said, they bought about a three month supply weeks ago…They asked how about you dad?…I said, I am fixed for about 2 months and if you figure in old clothes for rags, then 3…lol…They also all stocked up on respirators and masks weeks ago. I have only one lousy P-100. Making me very uncomfortable was My daughter asking if my funeral expenses are throughly covered ….Hummm….That kinda makes it all even more real.

    • Wuhan has 11 million inhabitants yet only 80,000 infected.
      Can we rely on anything out of China ?
      UK experience so far shows deaths entirely from older folks with underlying potentially fatal illnesses.

    • H1N1 wasnt “new” to animal or science knowledge it just crossed species
      this new bugger is
      thats why the Novel tag, new cross species dna/ rna
      and nothing from prior corona research meds wise is of use
      not that the prior SARS MERS really did have much effective treatment either.
      DARPA magically appeared saying they think they can use serum from recovered patients to fight it
      hmm curiously they insist its not a vaccine
      well it fits the bill without using live/attenuated virus itself to my mind
      its how snake antivenine works;you dose a horse with venom and extract n filter serum antibodies to make the treatment.

  8. Isn’t here a conspiracy theory around about the UN Agendas 21/30 indicating that the world population should be reduced by 85% ???

    • oh its NOT a “conspiracy theory” at all its pretty much their wet dream to have a massive population redux to “save the planet”
      sorta thinking they figured they of course wont be in the removeds
      that might just change, via a natural culling rather then eugenic ones

    • Cliffhild<
      no conspiracy 'theory' it is officially stated objective of , Prince Phillip (he said he wants to return as a virulent virus), Ted Turner of CNN, Jeffery Sachs (scientific advisor to 'my' Pope), Maurice Strong of the Club of Rome, Paul Elrich and many other Malthusians who all belong to the Bilderberg Club.
      All of the above and the Rockefellers, Bill Gates and too many to mention here are keen disciples of old Uncle Adolf and Uncle Joes attempts to wipe us little people out.
      You better believe it that these eugenicists are all members of the global warming cult.

  9. People don’t die in isolation. They have family, friends, neighbors. We do our best to save each and every person, including hospitalization. “Social Distancing” and quarantines are tools to blunt the spread of the virus until we develop better treatments, and this becomes just another flu.

    • in smaller places maybe people do lookout for others but in large cities?
      and I have known a very small town where a chap died and wasnt found for weeks
      because the elderly PO lady didnt think his not being seen or picking up mail for 3 weeks needed anyones attention…until the mailbox was full.
      I will probably end up doing shop n grocery runs for the elders here in my town, and its just what you do when theres a need. our hospital does meals on wheels and I suspect theyll also need extra helpers
      theres plenty we can do to make sure people arent left bereft even when theyre home alone.

  10. One question.
    Who is the UN Under-Secretary-General for Economic and Social Affairs, in charge of the UN 2030 Agenda which is the revised version of UN Agenda 21 and is in charge of climate action and sustainable development?

  11. Back in the mid to late 90s a very famous night time radio talkshow spotlighted the untimely and unseemly “deaths” of over 40 of the top microbiologists of the highest order worldwide. These microbiologists were the ones who could design vaccines and antidotes to all these new designer diseases. I am subscribing to the theory that this coronavirus may be a test of the vehicle to run out a real serious bio weapon disease. They are not as interested in deaths or numbers they simply want to track how it spreads. I still think this is only a test the same old culprits with the numbers 33 may be the ones designing these agents again just to track dispersal patterns. See other fun stuff on your friendly UNCENSORED intertube!☕️ Oh, and remember what Ford Perfect tod Arthur Dent in the Hitchhikers guide; DONT PANIC (42)

  12. We are going through a slave mentallity which means big IQ and morality drop. The “dumbing down process” at work here!

    • I’m far more concerned about a magnetic reversal in our lifetime than any of the media BS dumbing down the public!

      • I’m far more concerned about a knock on the door and a laser thermometer aimed at our collective foreheads’ in the in the near term of what may be our foreshortened lifetimes. Stay frosty, stay prickly, the most dangerous animals right now may be the local zombies “justy doin’ their job”.

      • Don’t forget our star’s micro nova along with magnetic reversal that will reset civilization. Perhaps the next founding fathers will include term limits on congress.

  13. There is more to this disease than the death rate. The damage to the lungs for those infected is a real factor that needs to be taken into consideration. I’m not making judgements on the necessity of curbing normal activities until the mess is all over. What will the numbers be a year from now? Is this going to be an annual thing like the flu? Most of these answers won’t be available for a year or more. If “social distancing” disrupts transmission and it turns out to be a non-event the naysayers will declare it never was a danger. The truth of it will be revealed when we compare our results to those of other countries. I have no idea what the panic is, or the media hype, because we don’t watch the media.
    We’ve always lived a prepared lifestyle, because stuff happens, but obviously other people live in a nice little bubble where bad stuff never happens and now they are in shock.

  14. Jack H, couldn’t agree with you more. On top of the 2017 stats compiled by the CDC (I will be sending the PDF of the entire article around to many of my e-mail contacts tomorrow, so THANKS!), does anyone remember the Swine Flu in 2009/10? Because I really don’t. But . . . here are the (verifiable) stats on that for this country: 60 million infected, 300,000 hospitalized, and 17,000 deaths. Obama was in office then, and the media praised his response (or lack thereof). Personally, I think his response was good, as there was no panic (but I know I am in the minority on that, at least among Trump supporters).

    So, clearly the media is milking this for all it is worth. And given that, what are the chances that this isn’t a well-coordinated effort to tank the economy and take down Trump by the Dems, the Deep State, and the media! Nearly zero, IMO. Never let a good crisis go to waste.

    Just think back to the impeachment. There is literally nothing they won’t do to take Trump out.

    And why don’t you ever hear about the nutritional things one can do to boost the immune system? Answer: because there is no money in it for Big Pharma!

  15. This is a math test. Folks bad at math will insist nothing is bad until it is a profound disaster.

    Look at Italy. 2 weeks ago, just a few hundred cases.
    Today they added more cases than the total to date in the USA.
    Over 3000, of which about 60 will need ICU treatment to live.
    They are now out of ICU beds and their medical systems are crashing. The USA reaches the same state about April 14.

    Exponential growth is like that.

    Of the 20% with bad disease, many end up with permanent lung damage and shortness of breath when walking IF THEY LIVE.

    Men can get testicular lesions and sterility.

    The 20% is hospitalized, for weeks.

    Once you exceed ventilators available, they die. Your flu kills 0.1% while this, with good care, kills 3.4%, once ICU full, 15% to 20% die.

    Of the other 80%, many have pneumonia and a horrible experience.

    Oh, and some in their 20s and 30s do end up in ICU or die. This is a sloped curve, not an age cutoff. The young do die, just in lower percentages. Those who don’t die, are miserable.

    Best of luck. I’ll check in with the folks who understand the exponential after herd immunity is reached , in about 2 months.

  16. If they tracked on a map any average flu virus that is out this season, showed current sick, deaths and recovered, it would be far more horrifying than the maps and stats we are seeing on the coronavirus. This is one of the biggest hoaxes ever.

  17. Pretty weird – to me – to see/hear so many voices downplaying what is unfolding right before our eyes … if any choose to attempt to see.

    Who here has seen the 10 minute interview from Professor Giacomo Grasselli the other day?
    He is only the guy in charge of Italy’s ICUs.
    How bout the January 27 press conference from Dr. Gabriel Leung?
    He is the individual who will be remembered for saving countless lives in Hong Kong … despite local authorities delaying for a few days implementing “draconian limitations on population mobility” as Dr. Leung so presciently exhorted his government – nay, the world – to impose.

    Mark. This. Well …
    7 to 10 days out, the inflection point SHOULD be reached as the RATE of growth in the US will reverse.
    The main reason is due to these extreme lockdowns/quarantines/closures sweeping across the land.

    Look to northern Italy, Hubei in January/February, to witness what otherwise could occur.

  18. “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.”

    ― H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women

  19. Contrast and compare.
    From CDC ( )
    COVID-19: U.S. at a Glance*
    • Total cases: 1,629
    • Total deaths: 41
    • Jurisdictions reporting cases: 47 (46 states and District of Columbia)
    (* Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. )
    In total to date for the USA, more people will die in vehicle accidents than by COVID-19 virus.
    In the USA with about 220 million vehicle drivers, on average, every 50 minutes someone dies from DUI (Driving a vehicle while Under the Influence[of alcohol or drugs]). That’s 29 deaths per day!
    These are very preventable deaths! (From )
    • Over 40,000 fatal car accidents per year in the U.S.
    • Each day, more than 90 Americans die in car accidents.
    • On average, 2 million drivers experience a permanent injury every year.
    • Almost 8,000 people are killed in traffic accidents involving drivers aged 16-20.
    • The most common causes of death on the road are drunk driving (40%), speeding (30%), and irresponsible driving (33%).
    • Some 58% of fatal car accidents involve only one vehicle, and 38% are caused by a traffic collision.
    • When it comes to fatal car accidents by state, most occurred in Texas and California during 2018.
    • Each year, more than 1,600 children younger than 15 die in traffic accidents.

    These are very preventable deaths.
    Maybe we should quarantine all vehicle drivers.

    Now that would be alarming!

  20. I wonder if you all will be so glib if YOU or one of YOUR loved ones ends up stashed in a hospital hallway to die because there are no beds, no ventilators and not enough medical staff left to treat you?

    For God’s sake, get your heads out of the sand!

  21. The US death toll from the this coronavirus now stands at a whopping 70.

    In the mean time, thousands every day are dying from the common cold, the flu, heart disease, cancer, car accidents, and yadda, yadda, yadda.

    This “crisis” is an overblown hoax. Guess where the trust in government and the media is going to after this coronavirus burns out? In the crapper!

    Remember all these other government/media-generated hoax crises that were supposed to summon the apocalypse and kill everyone?

    1993 Hantavirus

    1999/2000 Y2K Apocalypse

    2004 SARS (human coronavirus #1; aka SARS-CoV)

    2008 Avian flu

    2010 Swine flu (also in 1976)

    2012 MERS (human coronavirus #2; aka MERS-CoV)

    2012 Mayan Calendar Apocalypse

    2014 Ebola

    2016 Zika virus

    2018 Ebola again

    2020 Human coronavirus #3 (aka SARS-CoV-2)

    2022 Another government/media-generated crisis

  22. We are fiddling while Rome is burning…Covid-19 is just getting started in the US. The death rate is almost as high as the hospital recovery rate…and no, they are not all “old” people. In Europe, a good share of the ventilator patients are under 50. Wake up! Everything is not about Trump…

  23. When all of those 40000 deaths from accidents occur in just 2-3 months of the year, THEN we should quarantinw drivers.

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