Glaciers on K-2, the 2nd highest peak on Earth,  are growing  

Glaciers on K-2, the 2nd highest peak on Earth,  are growing  

Scientists struggle to explain it (Look out! Here comes the spin!) 

In the mountainous Karakoram region of Asia the glaciers aren’t melting. If anything, some are expanding, says this article on LiveScience.

“It’s been a source of controversy that these glaciers haven’t been changing while other glaciers in the world have,” said study researcher Sarah Kapnick, a postdoctoral researcher in atmospheric and ocean sciences at Princeton University.

Mt Everest region
Mt Everest region

In the Karakoram region — part of the larger Himalaya mountain chain — snowfall is decreasing in the summer but increasing in the winter, she said. This snow presumably feeds Karakoram’s glaciers, keeping them from retreating.

Because previous models overestimated the temperature of the Karakoram, they also underestimated the amount of snow in the region. This is the crux of the mysterious Karakoram anomaly, the researchers report (Oct. 12) in the journal Nature Geoscience.

Really? Increased snowfall makes glaciers grow? What a startling revelation.

The reason, she said, is that the IPCC and other climate models are lower-resolution, capturing climate change over areas no finer than about 17,027 square miles (44,100 square km).

Her group’s new model simulates climate down to an area of 965 square miles (2,500 square kilometers).

“This (supposedly) gives a reasoning for why you can have increased snowfall in a region and have increased glaciers or stable glaciers in a warming world,” Kapnick explains.

Often considered a part of the Himalayas, the Karakoram range, which runs through Pakistan, India and China, is technically a separate chain that includes K2, the world’s second-highest peak.

Thanks to Kingbum for this link

I wrote about glaciers growing in the Karakoram Range back in April of 2012:
Glaciers on Asia’s largest mountain range getting BIGGER
Although there were wide variations between individual glaciers, the mass of the glaciers in this 2,168-square-mile (5,615-sq-km) area has been increasing.

See also:
Himalayas have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

17 thoughts on “Glaciers on K-2, the 2nd highest peak on Earth,  are growing  

  1. So their “scientific” method is to guess again using revised computer guesstimate models. Hmmm, when I was in grad school doing my Ph.D. we actually collected real world data and performed statistical analyses on observed data! Computer models = GIGO.

    • Dr. Liposo:

      ‘Climate Scientists’ have retained the acronym ‘GIGO’ but in their world it stands for ‘Garbage In Gold Out’.

      • Bob, That is a Good one! I’ll have to remember that one for my next exchange of data to the “Believers” of global warming!

  2. There seems to be a strong connection between climate science and astronomy. Climate science has their CO2 model, and Astronomy has their “big bang theory.” Both groups have absolute faith in their, well, faith, and are constantly surprised by things that don’t fit their models/theory. And some of the spins that come out of their rationalizations to support their models/theory can be amazing. Amazing in that their rationalizations often fly in the face of reason, but that will never stop a cultist from being, well, a cultist.

  3. The tortured explanations of how “you can have increased snowfall in a region and have increased glaciers or stable glaciers in a warming world,” and “missing heat hiding in the oceans” become moot in a cooling one. It seems so obvious really, doesn’t it?

  4. I like the report of the “Melting Himalaya Glaciers” that stated, a few years ago, something like: “The melting glaciers are contributing to the ocean rise by a negative 0.1mm.” In other words the glaciers are growing and ocean levels are falling!
    This article continues to prove it.
    Meanwhile, the “Global Lying” continues with the claim: “2014 nearing the warmest ever”!
    Of course, we know this is manipulated garbage! Unfortunately, I even hear it on the radio news!
    Maybe I should rename it “Globola Warning”, for it is a disease that needs to be cured!

  5. Yes computer models are just garbage allright. Having done science programming..Makes me laugh the parameters these guys put in..and they have NO idea what the variables are then of course real world means most are statistical and chaotic.

  6. Climate researchers possess no basic knowledge of natural history or geology, and they work from a completely inadequate set of assumptions about the way the world actually is. Their first incorrect assumption is that climate is static and never changes. Consequently, they use the term “climate change” to designate something about climate that they believe to be unusual and they are completely baffled when the natural world doesn’t conform to the virtual worlds they create with computer models. It is laughable in one respect and pathetic in another.

  7. would be far more accurate to snap pics from planes going over..and as thats regular the data would be very credible
    unlike crappy modelling.
    another golly gosh looks like weve made a glaring booboo and …how are we going to bullshit our way out of it this time? scenario
    many many of them happening:-)

  8. What would these computer models look like if real time data was imputed? Too scary to release to the public?

  9. U.S. needs to invest in Arctic ships, technology to prepare for climate change: envoy

    They say: “including ice-breaking ships”. Yes! They will need them to rescue “Global Lying” scientists stuck in the ice, for the ice is not melting!

    “The United States needs billions of dollars of new equipment including ice-breaking ships, better satellite service and fiber-optic networks as it prepares for climate change and melting ice in the Arctic, a top U.S. official said on Tuesday.”
    “”You need assured access,” he said, noting that it had been sheer luck that the Coast Guard had had an ice-breaker nearby when a fuel tanker got stuck in the ice near Nome, Alaska about three years ago. At that point, it was the only such U.S. vessel, while Russia had more than 40 ice-breaker ships, Papp said.”


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