Greenland Ice Sheet defying alarmist predictions – Showing massive growth

Look at this graph from the Danish Meteorological Institute!

The dark gray line shows the mean from 1990 to 2013. The blue line shows the massive growth this season.



 

I don’t know if this is an all-time record (perhaps someone can enlighten me), but it sure far surpasses any growth in the past 27 years.

Source:
http://www.dmi.dk/en/groenland/maalinger/greenland-ice-sheet-surface-mass-budget/

Thanks to Bill Sellers for this link

24 thoughts on “Greenland Ice Sheet defying alarmist predictions – Showing massive growth”

  1. Interesting that in the midst of the “super” El-Niño, 2015 – 2016, and the hottest year EVAH the ice mass of Greenland was only very temporarily just a little below the mean level for 1990 -2013 – most of the time it was above the mean and at the end of the event really started accumulating.

    As Robert has said more water vapour more snow and probably a net gain in mass.

    I doubt the records go much further back in time – I do not know when the satellite monitoring of ice mass of Greenland began but 1990 sounds about right. Monitoring the ice mass wouldn’t have been as important as other meteorological uses prior to global warming alarm.

  2. One has to read the fine print –

    ” Over the year, it snows more than it melts, but calving of icebergs also adds to the total mass budget of the ice sheet. Satellite observations over the last decade show that the ice sheet is not in balance. The calving loss is greater than the gain from surface mass balance, and Greenland is losing mass at about 200 Gt/yr.”

    I think if calving is exceeding gain from snowfall Greenland has always had a higher mass of ice than an average over history before we began monitoring it. At some point the two will tend to a low difference else the ice mass could never remain stable. Perhaps we are simply witnessing an excess of ice mass returning to an equilibrium from an unsustainable maximum before we began monitoring this parameter nearly 30 years ago ?

    The other thing I noticed is that in the past you could find a link to every years graph over the period 1990 – I think – to the present and I can’t seem to find it now.

    1. I have added the link to the Daily Mean Temperatures in the Arctic 1958 – 2017 site in a previous post.
      If you check out the links for years which have memorable European winters you will find that the Arctic has peaks of less cold weather, still 20K below zero C. These are the incursions of the Meridional Jetstream weather moving from the Greenland/Iceland gap north-westward to the very top of Scandinavia before the Jetstream and its even colder weather then moves South into Russia towards the region between the Black sea and the Caspian.
      Greenland gains the most Ice mass increase from Easterly/South easterly Gales driving wind and rain at storm forces, which then rises 5000ft onto the Ice cap and falls as snow – Trillions of tones of it
      It gains the most ice mass increase during periods of low solar activity, for example, GSM Oort, Wolf and Spooer. I say these three because this early period of solar disturbance ended Greenland’s ability to support medieval farms and the Viking colony died out due to Ice and Snow and the resultant famine.
      During the early Modern period 1890-1914 the Gleissberg cool solar period, ice mass increased, Ice mass continued to increase, until the first three, high output solar cycles SC 17,18 and 19 of this modern solar warm period began the process of ice mass reduction. SC20 paused the Ice mass loss, cycles SC21,22 and 23 continued the Ice mass loss, until 2008 and the start of this modern GSM with SC24 and the recommencement of Ice mass gain.
      All due to Meridional Jet Streams and blocking Scandinavian High pressure systems for most of the European winter. Each NAO winter will see the same ice mass increase.
      The cause of this change in direction of the major climate drivers the jet streams – the lack EUV being emitted by the Sun during low Sun Spot cycles, EUV reduces by nearly 16% during normal solar minimums between warm solar period cycles 1940-2008, even more so during GSMs

  3. This is what happens when you have warm oceans (water vapour source) and cold air, massive mass gain on cold areas. The same thing happens with condensation on cold windows.

    The latest warmist propaganda re Greenland are the glacier loss near the sea. This is a total misdirection of the overwhelming truth. The media-warmist-ngo gang are criminals.

    The scare at the Oroville dam is the latest attack on the deplorable who voted trumpy. Sure there is embarrassing massive erosion, but never is the emergency spillway endangered (it is built upon bedrock not earthen foundation) nor the main earthen dam as it is well away from the new floodway’s natural bedrock foundation.

    So who and why was the people herded like the deplorable that the liberal elite craziness so despise?

  4. A couple of points –
    1) The warmists in the past few years have used the “more snow” argument as evidence of human-caused global warming, since a warmer atmosphere holds more moisture, etc.
    2) Based on the current rate of that Greenland ice graph, it appears it’ll hit the annual peak in March, which normally happens in June! That is incredible!

    1. You might find that the period since 1940 to 2008 has been solar indiced warming rather than human induced warming.

      I think you will find the peak will still be in March but far higher than the mean over the last 20 years.

  5. I am one of the scientists behind the polar portal and I would like to add a few things to this post. We have just published a piece on this winter’s extraordinary precipitation. Most of the increase above average fell during a series of storms in October and it is probably another example of extreme weather. You can read our analysis here: http://polarportal.dk/nyheder/nbsp/nyheder/heavy-snowfall-in-greenland/

    It is very much in line with climate change projections, a warmer Arctic will have more water vapour in the atmosphere and more storms, but it is too early to tell if this is a climate change related event or simply very extreme weather. It has certainly been very warm in the Arctic compared to the average this year.

    You should also note that this is a data product calculated from a weather forecast model, not one based on satellite observations, though our models do assimilate a lot of real time data in to them so we are pretty confident it is a good representation of the weather over Greenland.

    Also the determinant of the annual surface mass budget (which is what you need to work out if the ice sheet is growing or retreating) is the summer melt season. We will not know until the end of August if the heavy snow (which is also largely confined to the south and east) has had much of an effect on the ice sheet mass budget as a whole.

    The best website to use for looking at this is incidentally polarportal.dk as it has the previous years plots on it – it is the same data as the DMI plots you show here.

    Finally, although the increase in precipitation this winter seems high, on average Greenland loses around 250 Gt of ice each year (net) – this includes ice loss by both the surface melt and the calving components and is net of the mass gain of about 600Gt each winter. This mass loss appears to be the case for most of the 2000s since we started measurements with the GRACE satellites though with some variability from one year to the next – so an increase of about 150Gt this year compared with the average, is still a very small amount compared to the amount of ice Greenland has lost over the last decade – about 3000Gt.

    I hope this clears up some points.

    1. Ruth more storms and water vapor in the artic isn’t due to a warmer artic. In fact the temperature in the artic has been steady for the past 18 years now according to the most accurate temp measuring we have which comes from the sattelite. More storms and water vapor is due to a weakening of the magnetosphere allowing more galactic cosmic rays to enter our atmosphere causing more cloud cover. I’m not even a scientist and even I know that. Hmmmm I wonder why? Lol

    2. Ruth, in terms of global warming, there does not appear to be an upward trend in Arctic summers (melt season), in fact temperatures there have been at or below normal the past few years. If anything, that is what to look for: if the summers are getting warmer: 2016 – http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/meanTarchive/meanT_2016.png
      2015 – http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/meanTarchive/meanT_2015.png
      2014 – http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/meanTarchive/meanT_2014.png
      2013 (coldest & shortest time between freezing on record) – http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/meanTarchive/meanT_2013.png

  6. hi Rosco, funny how so many prior easily available charts n dat have “gone missing” isnt it?
    BoM wiped heaps off pages in 2009
    just after copenhagen cos i had sent emails showing records from past years then when i went to copy and save theyd vanished.
    as for greenland or any icemass
    downward pressure of new forces the calving
    so easily ignored but so true.

    1. The biggest scandal is that “our” BOM has recently denied access to the site listing the 1923/24 Marble Bar heatwave.

      “The world record for the longest sequence of days above 100°Fahrenheit (or 37.8° on the Celsius scale) is held by Marble Bar in the inland Pilbara district of Western Australia. The temperature, measured under standard exposure conditions, reached or exceeded the century mark every day from 31 October 1923 to 7 April 1924, a total of 160 days.”

      “The highest temperature recorded during the record spell was 47.5°C on 18 January 1924. There have been higher temperatures at Marble Bar, with the highest recorded being 49.2°C, on 11 January 1905 and again on 3 January 1922. But temperatures in other Western Australian towns have been higher: in a remarkable late-season heat-wave in February 1998, Mardie recorded a maximum of 50.5°C (on the 19th) – the highest temperature in Western Australia, and the second highest ever recorded in Australia using standard instrumentation (Oodnadatta, in South Australia, recorded 50.7°C on 2 January 1960).”

      This is an important part of Australia’s history but it has been removed by Orwellian tactics to force a political agenda.

      It was available recently but access is denied by BOM programming.

      I never thought they would stoop this low and remove this important information simply because it wasn’t convenient.

      Even if climate alarm turned out to be true they are all liars and cheats.

      If they are so cocksure of their hypothesis why lie, cheat, collude in secret, change the data ever few years and refuse open debate ?

  7. Great job continuing to try to deny the great global warming scare. Just one problem however. Your chart explains record growth across Greenland icecap since September of 2016 to present. A common misconception people make about climate change is that they often mistaken “local” climate change with “global” climate change. For example a record breaking cold event going 100+ years back cannot be blamed on local climate change or if New York’s local climate were to see a noticible change by itself unless that is that same record were to be broken over a timescale of at least several years in a row. A statement like record ice in Greenland cannot point to evidence that the climate in Greenland is changing unless the ice were to continue to shatter records going 100+ years back for the next several years in a row. Another example of a misconception of a change climate locally would be the record ice Antarctica has seen over the past few years. While that does point to some evidence that the climate is changing there it is still not enough to really disprove the fact that it is not due to global cooling unless it were continue to occur several years in a row. The number of hurricanes in the Atlantic for example has been on the decline for more then a decade now. That is indeed a sign of a changing climate local wise. “Global” climate change on the other hand is a totally different ball game. It has been occurring globally for years now since the last bottoming of the previous solar cycle before now since 2007 or so. The weakening of the earths magnetosphere caused the jet stream to go haywire and dip and ridge in totally different places never seen before as well as increase in cloud cover due to more cosmic rays penetrating our weaker magnetosphere interacting with oxygen isotopes that eventually multiply and form vapor water droplets which eventually increase cloud cover on a global scale causing more record rain and snow events and even stormy events around the globe. One for example can blame the last blizzard that struck the northeast as a sign that the climate is changing globally due to a wavey jet stream causing disruptions in the airflow causing certain disturbances and airmasses to linger for copious amounts of time. More then one would expect. Globally the weather is getting weird and is only going to get weirder as our magnetosphere weakens even further over the next 10-15 years. Record breaking 120 degree Heat waves followed by record breaking snowstorms to follow in just a 24 hr period in the middle of summer for example will become the norm. Locally however this doesn’t prove anything like as I said above one can’t blame a single weather event as proof that the climate in their specific town or area is changing unless averaging it out with what’s happening to our weather globally

    1. CC4R, what you say is only what we have all been pointing out for many years. It is those who have seized on the c.32yr cooling part of the intermediate cycle as ‘freeze-mageddon’, then the now-departing warming half of the same cycle to destroy Western civilisation for a hippy/Marxist idea which will/would murder billions, who are at fault. Try talking to them. No, it is political and ideological. We have to remove the ideologues from positions of influence, which began with Brexit. And continues as we write. We won’t hurt them, though they are happy to harm many. People are dying as we read here, from artificially-raised heating costs. Poor nations must remain so, without access to 24hr electricity turbines.

    2. ClimateChange4realz,

      The sun is expected to reverse poles in 2019 if the so called experts are correct lol. IF and I do lean on the IF, the Earth’s poles decide to reverse simultaneously with the sun’s poles you would expect a lot longer solar cooling than 10-15 years. We in this age are in uncharted territory! For any one to propose a theory as truth without debate should be in question. The better the technology becomes the more we understand the happenings, putting a lot of the happenings into a working science in yet a work in progress.

      Here are 2 new examples of more data to watch and effect of changes recently discovered.

      Good Day All

      https://watchers.news/2016/12/20/photon-braking-effect/

      https://watchers.news/2016/12/20/jet-stream-earth-core/

      1. I think they are correct in my own personal belief. What I believe is The poles are shifting due to orbital reversal and planetary elinement that also occurs prior to every grand solar minimum which also plays a huge role in climate change maybe not as important as relational solar cycles and weakening magnetosphere due to less galactic cosmic rays. Point being yes the poles are shifting. Why are they shifting? I don’t quite know but I am guessing it is due to what I explained above. What I do know is that no it is not caused by AGW which makes up a total of less then 1% of the total ghg affect at most since humans attribute to less then 3% of the 9-18% ghg affect total co2 (including man produced and natural) can have on the ghg affect at any given time

  8. It’s 100 percent right! Massive Ice growth continues in Greenland. Ths is especially true because we have a strong +NAO this season, meaning the trough is in Greenland (no blocking) with colder than normal temps and above average snowfall. This is just one reason why it’s been mild in the eastern US with progressive flow west to east along with the trough in the western US with heavy rain and snow there.

    1. Also the qbo never sifted to its normal east phase instead it stayed west and got even stronger which may have been the reason why the nao wasn’t able to go negative this year strong west qbo phases strongly correlates with progression jet streams west to east and that’s been quite text book this winter.

    2. @Kenneth Lund Yeah. Also La Niña played a pretty big factor as well keeping most of the cold artic air bottled north prohibiting most of it to progress south. That is why the southeast has seen such a mild winter temp wise. Because of this they are actually predicting tornadoe season to be much worse like after the mild 2011-2012 winter. I have a weird feeling this next winter is going to blow south east cold records through the roof!

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