Headed into a mini ice age?

Headed into a mini ice age?

We could experience a dramatic drop in temperature of the type not seen since the late 1600s.

“Forget global warming,” says this article in the Daily Mail. New figures show that planet has not warmed for the last 15 years. Even worse, we could be heading for a mini ice age “to rival the 70-year temperature drop that saw frost fairs held on the Thames in the 17th Century.”

Solar Cycle 25 Estimate - Livingston and Penn

The sun is now heading towards a ‘grand minimum,’ the article continues, which threatens to bring cold summers, freezing winters and shorter growing seasons.

According to new data released last week by the Met Office and the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit (of Climategate fame), there’s a 92 per cent chance that sunspot cycles in the coming decades will be as weak as, or weaker than the ‘Dalton minimum’ (1790 to 1830), when average temperatures in parts of Europe fell by 2C.

“However,” the article warns, “it is also possible that the new solar energy slump could be as deep as the ‘Maunder minimum’ (after astronomer Edward Maunder), between 1645 and 1715 in the coldest part of the ‘Little Ice Age.’”

Even though we’re now at the peak of solar Cycle 24, sunspot numbers are running at less than half of those during cycle peaks in the 20th century, and, say experts at NASA, Cycle 25 will likely be considerably weaker.

Incredibly, in the face of its own findings, the Met Office goes on to say that the consequences of the lower sunspot numbers will be negligible because the sun’s impact on climate is far less than man-made carbon dioxide.

‘Our findings suggest a reduction of solar activity to levels not seen in hundreds of years would be insufficient to offset the dominant influence of greenhouse gases,’ says Peter Stott of the Met Office.

How blind can the Met Office be?

One of America’s most eminent climate experts, Professor Judith Curry of the Georgia Institute of Technology, said she found the Met Office’s confident prediction of a ‘negligible’ impact difficult to understand.

“We’re now well into the second decade of the pause,” said Benny Peiser, director of the Global Warming Policy Foundation. “If we don’t see convincing evidence of global warming by 2015, it will start to become clear whether the models are bunk. And, if they are, the implications for some scientists could be very serious.”

‘World temperatures may end up a lot cooler than now for 50 years or more,’ said Henrik Svensmark, director of the Center for Sun-Climate Research at Denmark’s National Space Institute.

In just the last year, world temperatures have fallen by more than half a degree, as the cold ‘La Nina’ effect has re-emerged in the South Pacific.

See entire article, including graphs:

Thanks to Greg Mantle, Wanda, Martin, Bradley Haythornthwaite, Binks, Robert Brilz, Brian Payne, Lyn Jenkins, Miguel Barroso, Steven Woodcock,Ed Perkins, Joseph Rubenstein in Beijing, David Williams, Nicola Jowsey, Sonya Porter, Alan Caruba, Emma Corry, James Stoffaire, Ed Harrison, Peter Lamb, Peter Philpott, John Calvert, and many, many others for this link.

Solar Cycle 25 Estimate graph found here:

Here’s a link to a University of Reading press release concerning this (the Maunder Minimum part):

The press release includes a link to the Journal of Geophysical Research paper:  http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/pip/2011JD017013.shtml

“NASA must have been reading IceAgeNow. Trying to gain some credibility by reporting something real after their new fake clouds pages and moon landing hoaxes,” says Binks.

“This is not surprising to the people who follow your site,” says Terry.

43 thoughts on “Headed into a mini ice age?

  1. Scientist that support global warming seem to focus on isolated events,heatwaves, warm winters rather than the earth as a whole.These events will come to pass this year and paint a different picture of our future climate,, Magnetic reversals and temporary shifts can be tied to little ice ages and full blown ones along with other earth changes in plants, animals, and humans! we will see who is wrong and who is right over the next 2 years.

  2. Clouds seem to be behaving strangely. This is a qualitative observation, but having lived in CA for 40 plus years, I have a substantial set of long term observations. Seems there is just more cloud cover, even during this Cycle 24 max. I can’t imagine how much more there will be about 5 years from now!

    • I agree! Been here for 30 years. More clouds. Also bee and wasp populations have dwindled. People are waking up, but maybe to late.

      • I have noticed more clouds the last several years.

        Last summer was next to 2006 in terms of cloudiness:

        I think 2007 or 2008 where that summer that was constant SW flow aloft brining temps in the 80s and VERY sticky dew points like the east coast here in the PNW. (dewpoints 60+)

        That summer made me respect what you east coasters go through FOR SEVERAL MONTHS!.

    • I’ve lived in the Blue Mtns outside Sydney for 25 years. Since Jan 2007 there has been a marked increase in cloud cover and this summer has been the coolest I can remember with the traditional November Agapanthus flowers blooming in late Jan.
      We always used to get swarms of golden beetles aptly named Christmas Beetles but this year they are only making a vague appearance in late Jan.
      The flora and fauna sense what is going on. I spend a lot of my days outside too, and this year I have not had to use sun-block cream cos it’s so rarely sunny.
      The Max & Min temp charts probably don’t reflect the duration of the coolth through out the 24 hr cycle. Max temps are slightly down and Mins are held up at night by air humidity and cloud cover so the average figures do not appear all that different to normal but it is plainly the coolest summer in half a century

  3. Those who dismiss the significance of this grand minimum whether nations or individuals do so at their own peril. If the past is any precedence grand minimums last three and/or more cycles with a lag effect on climate. We are only at the beginning of what predictably will be a big grand minimum with two to three more weak cycles possible. That will take us well through most of this century.

    Most if not all were not alive during the last event and can only read of its devastation, i.e., “1816 and nearly froze to death.” They nearly starved to death as well. Growing seasons either failed altogether or were trimmed at both ends in America. Europe’s agriculture was equally devastated.

    Those who carry water for the AGW crowd have made matters worse than they would have been otherwise. This is an example of the unforeseen consequences of pseudo science. A 25 year campaign of misinformation and distorted science has rendered public sentiment so anesthetized that it will be ill prepared to deal with the realities of a grand minimum. We simply can’t imagine that the climate is actually cooling, and we certainly would never believe that significant cooling is on the way.

    Natural climate variability is an observed fact of science. As a matter of fact, it’s a cycle that is so consistent it is predictable. If it’s happened before, it will happen again. You can thank the AGW proponents for leaving the world unprepared.

    • But …… AGW has been a useful psuedoscience for governments to impose restrictions and extra taxes on it’s populations, and for the proliferation of carbon trading around the globe, now a market of some billions (all based on an imaginary idea – at least sub-prime mortgages were real!).

        • Chili…! It’s really good when the weather is cold. PLUS, you will be able to contribute your share of Greenhouse Gases and not have to worry about being taxed for “…not making enough CO2.”

          LOL LOL

    • You are correct in every statement. However you said they ‘nearly’ starved to death. They got through it though, with 17th century tech to boot. We too will get through it. The politics of agw is more dangerous us to than the ice.

  4. I think the regatta celebrating Queen Eliabeth’s long reign will still be able to float down the Thames River in June 2012. After that, who knows when the Winter Olympics may move to London. However, “we” are not really amused.

  5. SUV emissions have now affected the sun. People are responsible for the sun’s behavior. People are destroying the sun’s environment. THANK GOD WE HAVE THE UN AND AL GORE. Only they know how to get the sun to operate properly. FOR A PRICE.

      • It really isn’t a new concept. Some ancient people were sacrificing humans and animals to the Sun and Moon and whatever else their “Magic Man” told them to worship. I read recently where a cult in India, or some place in that vicinity, has been murdering people as human sacrifices … in just the past couple of months!

        Al Gore is just playing the part of the “High Priest.” And, I’d be willing to bet that there are plenty of stupid people who would kill themselves instantly if he told them it would save “Mother Earth.” SOSDC… Same Old Story Different Century.

  6. Not so long ago, cellars were discovered underground in Cape Town South Africa at the harbour area. They say this was built by the Dutch in the 1600’s to keep ice blocks and give it to the ships.
    1600’s and where did the ice come from? From drifiting icebergs close-by and was maumder minimum time.

  7. What rubbish the Metrological Office talk occassionally. Obviously no matter what goes on they always seem to get things inside out, upside down, wrong way around. The IPCC are the same brain reversal syndrome.

    It is a fact of science that the climate on Earth is 100% relient on the Sun. Levels of atmospheric Carbon Dioxide, no matter where ever they are coming from, have no effect on the climate what so ever.

    Millions of years ago levels of Carbon Dioxide were 2000 times greater than they are today and yet Ice Ages came and went then just as they have done in more recent times too. Indeed the higher the levels of Carbon Dioxide then so much better for life on Earth. Higher levels of Carbon Dioxide will result in higher levels of vegetation. Better crop yields.

    In my opinion it is the variations in COSMIC RAY INDUCTION that bring on climate changes. Sun Spot cycles and magnetic polarity reversals allow for greater amounts of COSMIC RAY INDUCTION which lead to more cloud cover and more volcano’s erupting. Thus blocking out sunlight. The lower levels of Sun Light getting through to the ground are then resulting in cooling and inevitable Ice Ages.

  8. Ha ha ha! I’ll believe that when I see it.

    Seriously though if we are heading into an ice age do you suppose our pattern of having snow in the spring instead of winter the last few years is just *bad luck* due to being in the beginning phases of a pattern flip we are not fully into yet?

    I am not speaking just for myself but as a (whatever word I am looking for that means a nation as a whole.)

    The nation has had an unusually warm winter and for the PNW the last several years have been in a warm winter/cool summer pattern where the precipitation just does not fall right for winter snow.
    (Unusual end of the year snowpacks)

    The only saving grace from droughts have been unusual late spring snowstorms in the mountains but winters have been uneventful since 2008.

    At least for the mountains 2008 was a lot cooler then 2003 so there was less snow melt and 2009 had a nice end as well.

    I am hoping we escape the 2012 drought by late spring snows as much as I wish for sunshine and I’ll appericate it if we can somehow squeeze both in.

    Lots of sun AND mountain snow in some unusual pattern.

    • What are you smoking Brian!?!?!? Uneventful snow amounts in the mountains since 2008? There have been RECORD snows in the Rocky/Cascade Mountains in EVERY year SINCE 2008! And it is the same THIS year. Rangers in several states and countries for that matter report GROWING GLACIERS! Tsk, tsk, tsk. MUST pay attention and do your homework before arguing a topic.

  9. “NASA must have been reading IceAgeNow. Trying to gain some credibility by reporting something real after their new fake clouds pages and moon landing hoaxes,” says Binks.”

    Oh Cmon, moon landing Hoax? That should never have made it on your website Robert, it should have been edited out…


  10. The person who commented on the clouds I have noticed a sharp increase over the last 15 years here in the southeast despite” the periodic droughts.The other thing I have observed is that multiple Loblolly pines that are 35-50+years are suddenly holding needles 2 years instead of 1yr I have never seen this happen until the last few years! normally conifers that grow in colder climates keep their needles multiple years,to increase photosynthesis areas, during long coldspells to ensure survival during short growing seasons.I wonder if this is natures way of preparing the southeastern U.S.A pines to a colder and harsher Climate down the road!

  11. As I predicted shortly after the dawn of 2012; “I can only forsee things getting worse in 2012, MUCH worse.”

  12. If you want to think about something weird in relation to a coming ice age – you ever think about how animals stuff themselves to put on weight before a hard winter is coming – farmers and hunters often notice it with squirrels etc – well guess what animals are putting on lots of weight before a possible coming ice age – humans are suffering from obesity in large numbers – I wonder if we have that prescient gene hidden in ourselves somewhere – we know the cold is coming and, without conscious effort, we are preparing for the cold and famine. Interesting question that has been niggling at my mind for years as the ice approaches.

    • Our survival genes kicking in! this explains why some people are more prone to obesity exp. northern europeans and Native americans!unfortunatly we kick this gene on with the type of foods were eating! but maybe it happened before in the past, and we stuffed ourselves much like animals on instict of forthcoming ice age! I was told by a former friend in the military 9 years ago they found the remains of the ark, and that a full blown Ice age would transend in the u.s in, or,by 2013! whether it was true or not I will never know,,could have been classified or not? we will see..

    • You are right! Have you noticed Polynesians i.e. Samoans tend to be hi BMI? Only the fat ones survived the 2000 mile canoe ride! The human animal will survive. Adapt, Improvise, and Overcome. That is the Human Law of Survival.

    • Thanks! I’ve been looking for something to blame these extra pounds on! Fantastic! I’m over weight and it’s all because of Global Cooling… LoL

  13. Well Little Ice Age or Big Ice Age, it will feel the same to those of us who have to suffer with it. Even if it lasts only fifty years, it will surely outlast me. Those born into it won’t know the world as we have.

    As the Ice Age comes to an end, and things begin to warm up again, they’ll be hollering about “Global Warming” all over again.

    • Anyway we slice it! this will radically change our world and enviroment! Not CO2 or global warming!!! 75% of the planet seems to be experiencing colder readings right now! only one exception being the lower 48 states,”We are above average” right now! but Im sure that will change by winters end.

    • Frank that is why we need a big ice age.
      After 105,000 years the whole concept of AGW will be forgotten, languages and cultures will change and the world as you know it will be as big a myth as Atlantis.
      Starting over from scratch is sometimes nessesary for having a chance at making things right.

  14. Temperatures fell to minus 17 C, a 55-year low for February weather, in Seoul and to the lowest level since meteorological records began in some regions of the country in the morning, the Korea Meteorological Administration (KMA) said.


    UAH Global Temperature Update for January 2012: -0.09 deg. C

  15. My x-husband just posted (in response to my posting of this article) that January 2012 was the warmest January (globally) since temperature recording began. Now you see why he is my X – but where could he have gotten that information? Seems that even the most rabid AGW site could not have said something as unbelievable as that. It was quite warm here in Oregon but certainly not everywhere.

  16. Kyle says:
    January 31, 2012 at 2:06 am
    I can totally support your observations, for in Victoria,Australia, I recorded a total reversal of Barometric pressures, and these changes have been brought about by the fact that our Earth has been orbiting within the Positive Magnetic Heliosphere since the 15 February 2001, that was the catalyst to change our climate.

    Carbon Dioxide had absolutely nothing to do with this natural change in climate. It can be compared to the 104 year cycle, and is directly associated to the averaged period of 11.1 year, Swarbe Cycles.

    This present cycle will come to an end on or near the 22/23 December 2012 when once again, Earth will commence another 25,800 year Pression cycle.

    My book: Climate Change-Explained by Magnetism?(2009) ISBN9780646477220 illustrates this feature.

  17. To me it’s obvious that since the Little Ice Age coincided with the Great Age of Exploration that the Little Ice Age was also man made… the sails of all those ships exploring the world interfered with the warming effects of the trade winds thus plunging us into the Little Ice Age.

    It always ends up being Mans fault and the fault of our technological advances that mucks things up.

    This time around it’s likely to be that cloud of space debris that keeps the warming effects of the sun from reaching our planet that plunges us into the next Little Ice Age… (just to be clear here and for all those literalist out there… it’s called SARCASM or being FACETIOUS).

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