Hoping to clone a woolly mammoth within five years

After finding well-preserved bone marrow in a thigh bone of a woolly mammoth found in Siberia, scientists believe it may be possible to clone the giant mammal within five years.

See entire article:
http://evolutionaryleaps.com/2011/12/hoping-to-clone-a-woolly-mammoth-within-five-years/


40 thoughts on “Hoping to clone a woolly mammoth within five years”

    • ‘Jurassic Park’ was no “Walk in the park!” Heck, even the ‘King Kong’ and ‘Mighty Joe Young’ movies tried to show us the impossibility of our co-existing with something that huge within the confines of our normal, dry land, environment.

      Whales not withstanding … Whales only exist today because “humanity” has not yet begun to build huge cities under the oceans and equip all of us “residents” with submarines in the hundreds of millions (as we have cars, semi-trucks, buses, subways, trains, etc. on dry land.)

      For that matter, elephants only exist in the wild today because we haven’t paved them under. Everywhere elephants exist with humans, the elephants are the losers. EXCEPT … when humans find a way to put elephants to work (think India, Sri-Lanka.) Or in Africa, where they are considered “game animals” and money is made from the removal of “rogue elephants” from areas where they impinge upon human activity.

      So … as a novelty a mammoth is what it is. Practically speaking, humans have a bad track record of co-existing with animals bigger than ourselves unless we can eat them, or put them to work for us.

      Just my two pesos worth … (Gosh, at today’s rates that’s like $20 US.) LOL

  1. This is terrifying. What if they also clone the disease that killed them. And what if that disease is even worse on us, who would no longer have an immunity to them. Let the dead rest. This is sheer nuts. These scientists not only lie, they play with fire in other people’s houses. Nuts!

  2. There are areas that “scientists” don’t need to go and as far as I am concerned, “cloning,”be it monkeys or Mammoths, and genetic modification are two areas that they “think” they know what they’re doing and basically, I don’t think they really have a real clue as to what the outcome might be. Look at the many things that aren’t quite right any more, bees being one and human allergies being another because of their “experimenting” at being God.

  3. I read the comments from the original article and I get the feeling that people don’t get what will happen. If they are successful in putting the genes in an elephant egg, a brand spanking new baby mammoth will be born. It will grow up to be a duplicate of the mammoth that they found. By switching the genes you are just changing the “program” of how the embryo will develop.
    You will not clone the disease that killed it (if that’s what killed it). You might catch the disease from the dead mammoth, if that’s what killed it.

  4. I want one if they can be potty trained. Old Shep will be going to doggie heaven soon, and I could a better yard guard.

    But seriously, I hope they succeed. Michael Crichton would be pleased. I think.

    • No .. I think Crichton would be appalled! The whole point of Jurassic Park Book was that Cloning these extinct animals is extremely dangerous for humanity.

  5. And the purpose of wanting to recreate the mammoth is? If they want to prove they can do something useful with genetic transmutation, let them find a cure for male pattern baldness.

  6. Dave, I really think you are having a ‘trust the scientists’ moment, and it isn’t a good idea. Nature WILL do things that we cannot predict, and these ‘scientists’ are playing with an unknown outcome and a very high percentage likelihood for unintended circumstances. If they cannot map out every single outcome they have no business playing with these genes. It’s one thing if the Wright Brothers risked their own skins to create a flying machine. It is quite another to risk all of our lives not knowning what you will find. Nuts.

  7. I’m reminded of the scene out of Jurassic Park when Dr. Malcolm says,”. . . that you spent so much time thinking out how to do it, (clone dinosaurs)and no time at all on thinking whether you should do it.”

    Science can be a two edged sword.

  8. I think, with the advent of cloning and, genetics, altering the ‘natural’ flow of things and ‘modifying’ everything that we can just, because we can, is a real danger and a risk to everyones future here on this Good, Gods, earth. It is one thing to research something for the ‘betterment’ of mankind. It is quite another thing to do something which carries risk, any kind of risk and, lets face it, GM itself is’nt quite working out. Developements in vaccines arent working out, theres death, narcelopsy, disablement and, thats just things like gardasil and N1H1. I don’t want to get into the whole argument about ‘he said, she said’, i dont want to be drawn into the possibilities and the negatives. The fact is to my mind, if one, just ONE life was threatened by the above then, the cost is far too high not to mention the ‘research’ has been too highly negligent.
    What can mankind ‘benefit’ from this ‘Mamoth’ research?, who stands to gain from it?, where is the moneies for research coming from?, after research does the mamoth be destroyed, if so when?, featal stage?, adolescance? adult?. Is the population as a whole going to be in any danger?, will the adult (if allowed) be under proper control?, is there going to be proper control of the whole ‘experiment?’ (for, at this stage, that is what it is). What safety measures will be in place to ensure that peoples worries about cross contamination, wont happen? (remember, in genetic engineering, cross contamination from free pollens is probably the biggest menace in GM crops…worldwide). And, is this ‘experiment’ really nessesary or is this just curiosity? a kind of forward look into our history.
    Apart from ‘meat’, i can’t think of anything or any reason why this ‘experiment’ should even be contemplated.
    Can You?.

  9. Wow! I had to go back and read what I wrote… I did but the people commenting on what I wrote didn’t.
    Never said I trusted anybody. Never said I approved or disapproved. Just trying to explain that a fully grown mammoth would not pop out from someplace.

    That said…. It would be so cool! All this talk about the natural order of things and Gods will etc…whatever. I’d pay to go see it.

    It’s an outdated subspecies of elephant that did live not all that long ago. They have already done a sheep and most likely a bunch of stuff we don’t know about. Much ado about nothing.

  10. Hi Everyone!

    The part of me that is fascinated by any type of technology is excited by this.

    The big kid part of me that would love to see these magnificent creatures in the flesh is excited by this.

    The zoologist part of me would love to study them.

    But the zoologist part of me is also concerned that any such a clone will not be a true mammoth. I am increasingly convinced that genes are only part of our blueprint. This could account for the fact that many clones have health problems and foreshortened lives. I seem to remember that Dolly the sheep suffered arthritis and did not live as long as expected – that’s from memory. So may not be accurate.

    The animal lover part of me is very concerned about this animal’s welfare – not just physical health problems, but social and mental health. All elephants are highly social. What if this mammoth’s brain is preprogrammed for certain behaviour and nurturing which is not provided by its mother and keepers? We see enough mental suffering amongst zoo animals as it is. Admittedly many zoos are getting it right now, but many do not. How will they cope with an unknown species?

    If we are going to resurrect extinct species, what about some of those we have killed off? The Thylacine (Tasmanian “Tiger”) would be a good one. Don’t think there’s any good DNA around, but if there was…

    Having said all that, as a zoologist AND a pilot, I’d love to see some of those giant Pteradactyls with 30ft wingspans flying around! Not so sure about the safety implications though. Perhaps we can train them to only pick off corrupt politicians and bloated bankers!

    Besides, this is going to be a very expensive project – bet they have mammoth bills to pay!!!

    Sorry about that, I’ll go now.

    Best wishes, Nick

  11. the original page had one good comment re the aging of cells in clones, ie Dolly.
    the DNA controls the Telomeres, and aging shortens them, so any clone , should they manage it would be at risk of a very much shortened lifespan and early disease onset. all clones would be related, theyre using the mammoth dna and the elephant embryo is just the carrier.
    then the real question is why? it serves no useful purpose to recreate an animal needing much space, when all elephants are at risk due to overcrowding to save them from hunters now.
    and NO i dont think Michael Crighton Would be pleased. his books try and warn us of the dumb things..ie jurassic and especially State of Fear is very pertinent.

  12. The most frightening book I ever read was “Who Shall Play God” about the subject of genetic engineering. Imagine a business or government agency with a computer program running thousands of pages and then imagine that anyone with a laptop is allowed to make changes. The disaster you imagine is the disaster you will get.

  13. A stupid idea.Are the people who support this idea really that borded with life that they may create something that could result in all kinds of negative consequences.

    • It’s all about the $$$$$.

      If they charge $20 per person to see “The World’s Only Living Woolly Mammoth,” people from every corner of the globe will come to see it.

      A couple of hundred million “viewings” later … the “Cloners” have made Four BILLION Bucks!

    • Opinions … everybody should have one. And, everyone should be free to state it. However, none should have the right to impose their opinion as fact, when in fact they can not positively prove their opinion is the absolute truth.

      How many people get PO’d when the Global Greenies express their opinion, about “Global Warming,” as a fact? Plenty. You just can’t have it both ways. Double Standards are a dubious thing!

  14. What is it with some of the commenters here? There have been comments ranging from bad science to religionism.

    Cloning per se is not a bad thing, nor is it all that dangerous. There is absolutely no evidence that bees are having one of their cyclic bad reduction in numbers because of cloning or any other genetic modification.

    There is certainly no “god” to give “us” or anyone else the Earth.

    However, the only point in cloning a mammoth would be for money – no scientific benefit at all. The animal would probably suffer in a cage all its life (I don’t like zoos) all for the benefit of a few gawkers. I therefor agree that this should not be done.

    • Attention Jeremy,

      Can you positively, 100%, PROVE there is “no god?” I think not… You are expressing your opinion; not fact. Yet, you “certainly” attempt to frame your belief as fact.

      Why slam people for their “comments” when yours are most “certainly” no better.

      If folks wish to frame their comments using “God,” “religion-ism,” or “bad science” as a means to express themselves what right do you have to disrespect them for it?

  15. Hi!

    Ref. the downsides of genetic engineering (yes, I know it’s not the same as cloning) there is evidence that at least some genetically engineered crops are nutritionally deficient compared to older, non-genetically engineered crop varieties. This information has been suppressed and the scientists who brought this to the science community’s attention have suffered from character assassination, loss of research grants, career stagnation and even constructive dismissal. I’m too busy to dig the references out right now. A very good recorded presentation of the evidence is often repeated on “Controversial TV” on Sky Channel 200 for those in the UK (broadcasts from 6am until 10pm). It can also be received across Europe on Eurobird 28.3E (11.222Ghz H, symbol rate 27.5, FEC 2/3).

    I wonder how much suppression of inconvenient information about cloning there has been? There is ample evidence of suppression of inconvenient research in so many fields, including global warming. I am not suggesting we all become paranoid. But I think we should all show healthy scepticism in the face of bland assurances from any source. And that includes cloning.

    Best wishes, Nick

  16. So …. why are they not working to “clone” some of the more recently extinct animals the Greenies are always groaning about? Oh yeah, cause then they would have to find something else to groan about. LoL

    Anyway… I think it might be kind of interesting to see a real live mammoth. But honestly, I think the world has so many, much bigger, problems to solve that cloning mammoths seems like a waste of time, money, and effort.

    Cloning is, in actuality, a really scarey venue. Just imagine this scenario…

    They perfect the process of cloning. Rogue Labs begin to clone folks for money. Some really bad people decide to clone themselves and use the clones for spare parts to extend their own lives.

    Yeah, I saw it in a movie … But, such a thing surely will become possible and with possibility comes probability.

  17. Jeremey says “There is certainly no “god” to give “us” or anyone else the Earth.” Excellent point along the lines I was thinking of with the whole “let nature take its course” WAKE UP! WE HUMANS are a part of nature. Just like other species on this planet we all strive to survive, otherwise we will not reproduce. However, lucky for us we are we are the damn smartest species to ever be on this planet and just like other species in the present and past we will go to whatever lengths we have to if we are to survive. Not even to reproduce as many of us now in 1st world countries dont bother, in comes cloning for that sense. Another good fact, there is no god that is going to come down and dictate anything! Following that rational we have become the one and only in a false sense god, the human race as a whole the most powerful species in nature that dictates what we do to nature. What we do to nature will simply be a another part of nature by way of a product of us who I will say again are a part of nature. Now that the full common sense circle is looked at lets move on to the importance of genetic engineering and cloning.

    Both will be key for the long term survival if the human race is to last millions of years. Other wise we will only have lasted a few 100,000 of years (how ever far back present day humans could can go and still reproduce with out ancestors.)We only started farming 10,000 years ago and only started flying planes 100 years ago, the moon roughly 40 years and we will be to mars hopefully within the next 30 years. See the big picture? Technology is rappidly improving and allowing us the ability step by step to one day leave this planet. We will have to at some point or for some reason we will be come extinct one way or another and or technology will be set back by a world wide disaster in the nearer future compared to extinction where at the latest we would go with the sun in the unlikely event nothing else got us first.

    In the future humans are going to look back and think WOW look how dumb we were strapping ourselves to 100,000 pounds of highly explosive fuel as we have already lost many lives and dollars with the shuttle program alone. However, without this risk we would never have gotten off in the first place and strived to push our technology further. We will most likely use plasma as our future fuel source.

    The same can easily be argued with genetics and cloning. We will need it to not only boost our life span as lets face it long term space travel will suck unless we can some how beat the speed of light, however the law of relativity will still complicate everything.

    Other genetic tampering can rid us of other flaws outside of natural aging and common diseases. That is the ability to survive in other atmospheres in which right now would all be hostile to us. Thats just in nut shell.

    However, cloning the mammoth I will support if its treated humanely. It will further promote research in the realm of genetics.

    Yes, there may be mistakes of horror along the way as we inevitability go down this path but it is essential we get by this early phase.

  18. BREAKING NEWS..!

    Wooly Mammoth Re-Created in the United States!

    Working alone, and using only Rogaine purchased from a local Sammy’s wholesale Store, Flat Toad Arkansas resident Harry B. Osley has re-created a Wooly Mammoth.

    In a recent interview Harry, “my friends call me B.O.,” stated that “it took a lots of that there Rogaine stuff, but we gotter dun.” When asked about how he accomplished a feat which has perplexed modern scientists for decades, Harry (B.O.) replied, “It was pert near simple really,” I jess thought abouts a eluphunt fer a little while, and then it hits me right tween thu eyes while I was uwatchin’ the T V.” Harry said that while viewing a television show he saw an ad for Rogaine Hair re-growth formula and that sparked his “Creative juices a flowin.”

    “He had sum hep,” said B.O.’s wife Petunia. “Iffin it weren’t fer me n the nay-burs he’d uh neva ‘gotter dun’.” It seems that, elephants being rather large, and Harry (B.O.) being somewhat poor, purchasing the Rogaine from a local drug store or Wally Mart was not an option. “Those little bottles jess costed too much,” said Petunia. “So me n Harry bar-ried his Daddy’s truck and went to thu Sammy’s Store an picked us up some hair grow innu 55 gallin jug.” “Sho-nuff,” agreed Harry, “we wuz able to gets enough to warsh the elephunt down real good.”

    Asked about how they were able to apply 55 gallons of Rogaine to an elephant, Harry’s half-brother Willy Clinton (some relation to the former President?) had the answer. “We used ar five horse combu-nashin preshur washer n power house painter.” It seems that B.O., half-brother Willy Clinton, and their “Daddy,” took the elephant to the local Fair Ground, and using a “rented Cherry Picker,” and the “power house painter,” were able to get the job done in about fifty five minutes.

    According to Harry “Thu hairs started a growin right away,” and “afta about anutha week, we hadz to apply a sekin coat.” “But az you kin see, we gots us uh Wool-E-Mam-uth fo sho.”

    When asked about how much the entire venture cost, Petunia “rekin’d” that “it costed us abouts three thow-zin dollr’s.” However, anonymous sources report that, the two families have been offered two million dollars for the Mammoth: With reports of larger deals in the offing. One such offer, from the local Kick-ya-Butt Indian Reservation Casino, reportedly involves using the Mammoth in Casino Promotions.

    However, new developments from the State General Prosecutor’s Office indicate that Petunia may be charged with fraud for using her monthly SSI disability checks to fund the entire project. Local Toadies refuse to comment on the possibility of Petunia’s arrest.

    Currently the “Wooly Mammoth” now named ‘Goat’ owing to his resemblance to ‘Harry’s older sister,’ Goat Osley Two-Heel, is residing on “local Tribal Lands.” Go Two-Heel, or just ‘Go’ according to her friend Freeda Man, is the town historian and “the Go-to gal for local Waffle Hut gossip.” When asked what she thought about the Mammoth being named after her, Go Two-Heel said she thought “Harry 2,” “T-W-O,” would have been a “much betta name.”

    Presently, the USDA, DoA, FDA, EPA, Interior Department, DoD, FBI, Homeland Security, US Forestry Service, and Bureau of Indian Affairs, among others, are investigating all parties to see if they have any connections to the Tea Party, the Republican Party, or any of the current Republican Candidates. Which in the view of this APA reporter seems likely, since voter registration records show that Flat Toad, and Bald Knobber County, have remained 100% Democrat since the 1860s.

    In an “Also-Happened” several local teenagers were arrested last Friday Night, by Tribal Police, for attempting to use “Power Paint Rollers” to apply Nair to the Mammoth. The Teens said that they “felt sorry for him.” Because, “Nobody should have ta look like Harry’s sister ceptin Goat hersef.”

    HO HO Ho Merry Christmas to all.

  19. We may need to start to clone a cave man as well so we can begin a breeding program since the ice age will soon begin, it may be good to mix their genes with our own, so we will survive.

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