Jupiter and Saturn about to do something not seen since the year 1226

Nearly 800 years!


Jupiter and Saturn about to do something not seen since the year 1226

Marcus M

I saw this and thought: “Wait! What happened about 800 years ago”? The beginning of the Little Ice age? Not exactly, but there was a cool-down from the Medieval Warm period before the Little Ice Age swung into full swing.

When the two largest planets locate in a similar plane, then the center of mass of the Sun changes, possibly causing less Sunspots and lower output.

The same occurs with the Earth. We will have to see if these changes cause more earthquakes or volcano action.

Of course, the gravitational forces may elongate the Earths path around the Sun during our winter season. Could this be part of the early snow and cold? Or is it a combination of other factors?

We will see if the Sun continues low numbers of Sunspots as well.

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This is the article I saw:

Jupiter and Saturn are about to do something not seen for nearly 800 years

The two largest planets in the solar system, Jupiter and Saturn, have fascinated astronomers for hundreds of years. But the two gas giants will do something next month not seen since the Middle Ages — they will look like a double planet.

The rare occurrence will happen after sunset on Dec. 21, 2020, the start of the winter solstice.

“Alignments between these two planets are rather rare, occurring once every 20 years or so, but this conjunction is exceptionally rare because of how close the planets will appear to one another,” said Rice University astronomer Patrick Hartigan in a statement. “You’d have to go all the way back to just before dawn on March 4, 1226, to see a closer alignment between these objects visible in the night sky.”


Note: I mention these alignments in Not by Fire but by Ice.

According to studies by Rhodes W. Fairbridge and John E. Sanders of Columbia University, these alignments cause what is known as the solar retrograde cycle. This cycle involves changes in both solar spin rate and solar output (solar output declines abruptly). The retrograde motion itself is produced by the gravitational pull of the planets; primarily Saturn and Jupiter. When Saturn and Jupiter are both in the same quadrant of the solar system they exert a greater pull on the sun. The cycle is undeniable. “Solar cyclicity must now be considered as being a fact of life,” said the two Professors Emeritus. (Both Fairbridge and Sanders were Professors Emeritus of Geology at Columbia University. Each of them published extensively in geology and astronomy.

I’ve posted a separate article about these alignments here:


6 thoughts on “Jupiter and Saturn about to do something not seen since the year 1226”

  1. Thanks, Robert. Perfect addition to the article. Of course, the following drives it home:

    “As if that weren’t enough, multiply the 1440-year cycle by eight, and you come up with 11,520, which is suspiciously close to the 11,500-year ice-age cycle.”

    “So here we sit. The next beat of the 179-year solar retrograde cycle is due. The next beat of the 360-year Little Ice Age cycle is due. The next beat of the 1440-year ice-age cycle is due. The next beat of the 11,500-year ice-age cycle is due. The next beat of the 100,000-year ice-age cycle is due . . . and we’re worried about global warming?”

    While Biden states “We must unite the nation”. I don’t know about others, but I for one will not unite behind their “New Green Swindle”! I plan to use the same environmental laws and values against it.
    Every time they plan a solar system, they butcher the land, destroy the habitat, and harm/kill wildlife. I wish I had a boat, for I would get in the way of the ocean construction of those “Statues of Stupidity” (Wind machines) like Greenpeace does to whaling boats. Unfortunately, I’m only one person, so protesting won’t make a big difference. If I were an oil executive, I would be funding protests against the “Green Swindle”, for “They” want to kill off your business and even have executives jailed!
    Of course, if they get away with spending the estimated $100 Trillion, then “We the People” will become slaves to the government!

  2. Marcus M

    There has certainly NOT been early snow in Europe this year. If you look at the snow reports for alpine ski resorts, there is a very distinct LACK of early season snow. There was one event early on with snow down to 1200-1500m, but that has long since melted below 2000m.

    The early snow in the Pacific NW is more likely due to La Nina than this particular event, although with events as rare as this, data to compare to is singularly lacking.

    All I suggest people do is make a detailed documentation of what happens during this alignment, so that descendants in another 800 years have something to compare to….

    • Well, here in switzerland we had quite a lot of early snow in november, even october, and we have right now heavy snowfall even in the lowlands (yes, there are a few flat places even here) which is rather speacial so early in december…

  3. This is a fascinating observation. It’s all about cycles and this one will be interesting to observe and unwind in the future.
    I purchased Not By Fire But But By Ice when it first came out. It changed my perspective on climate and weather. Broadened my thinking and has been with me since. Thank you for writing it!

    • Thanks, but the credit should go to Robert, for I know he had the solar retrograde posted a long time ago. That’s why it was rattling around in my head when I saw the headline of Saturn and Jupiter.

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