Major study on climate change canceled due to too much ice

Major study on climate change canceled due to too much ice

“Here is a link about the ridiculous approach of the warmists: their expedition failed due to too much ice around Newfoundland, and they suggested it was because ‘warming of the Arctic’. I do not accept the explanation.” – Alexey Parkhomenko

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Icebreaker CCGS_Amundsen.

“A team of scientists from the University of Manitoba and four other universities was in the midst of the first phase of a 4-year study of how climate change affects the area around the Hudson Bay, the university said in a statement. The study called BaySys began in April 2018, when scientists set sail on the Amundsen research icebreaker of the Canadian Coast Guard.

Because of the rising temperature in the Arctic, dangerous blocks of ice reach the territories to the south than usual. “Amundsen” because of his icebreaking abilities was constantly forced to go to rescue in the rescue operations along the northern coast of Newfoundland. As a result, the study had to be canceled.

https://www.gismeteo.ru/news/klimat/27727-krupnoe-issledovanie-klimaticheskih-izmeneniy-otmeneno-iz-za-klimaticheskih-izmeneniy/

Here’s a description of the project:
http://umanitoba.ca/faculties/environment/departments/ceos/research/BaySys.html

 

 

 


35 thoughts on “Major study on climate change canceled due to too much ice”

  1. Not to mention that happens all the time. Still searching for that Northwest passage 3 to 500 to 12,000 years after the fact? Also my source says, by eyeballing it, the majority of the Pacific could be cooler than average. In addition, one of the top experts, who undoubtedly has access to more sources than I do says the tropical Atlantic is also cooler than average. My source does not show any significant areas of cooling for the Atlantic, either because it hasn’t been updated, or it’s just not correct.

    • W.r.t. the Northwest Passage, during 1421-1423 A Chinese Treasure Fleet under Admiral Zhou Wen sailed via Malacca, the Cape of Good Hope, the East coast of North America, clock-wise around Greenland and back to China past the Siberian coast (NE Passage). Charting all along their route.

      Gavin Menzies: “The Year China Discovered America”.

    • The Northwest Passage has been open and closed fairly often. It was open – or very nearly so – at times during the first half of the 20th century. It has actually been “closed” more since then. But as various bloggers like Tony Heller have been pointing out for a long time, historic data is being modified to match the expectations of the current generation of AGW “scientists.”

  2. It’s happened so often it’s beyond coincidence in my opinion. It’s trying to tell them something and they definitely are not listening.

  3. Ridiculous enough with global warming. If you can read, we are going into global cooling, nasa all ready admitted that. Stop trying to suck monies out of people , and for once write honest papers
    Had enough of this Global warming, open your eyes and look around the world

  4. Would have thought…….. NAY – SHOULD BE an excellent preamble to their research………. the howz n wise ! In other workds it was just a Jolly – gone wrong and good while it lasted. Derailed kind of train springs to mind…

  5. The study intends to review the influence of fresh-water flows into Hudson Bay upon the climate. It also mentions “substantial” amounts of electrical power generated by two rivers.

    There seems to be no mention of what happens to global warming when the electricity is taken out of the river water.

    Hmmmm?

    • This is the second reference to electric current and the sea with regard to temperatures but only in the last week. How long has this been known and used, and give me a primer. Thanks

  6. They’ve got an explanation for everything! Sweet!

    I think they learned from the Y2K fandango. You need to maintain an open ended time frame. Then, attribute absolutely everything weather related to carbon dioxide and methane emissions. The powerful have used threats of Armageddon to scare people throughout the ages.

  7. Canada is a lost cause. It used to be a top second tier country, but is rapidly becoming a third world cesspool of islam and liberralism

    • David:

      You might be jumping the gun a bit on that one. The Canadian Government is pushing ahead with the Trans Mountain Pipeline, in the face of sizeable protest.

  8. Cold is the new warm.

    Warmists want it both ways: heads I win, tails you lose

    That’s why it’s called climate change now. Change is unfalsifiable, yet the cause of it, that IS a falsifiable. And that is a different matter, which is why it is undebatable: the orthodoxy of their religion. Grrrrreat.

    So, move along, nothing to see here.

    • They seem to believe that humans are powerful enough to do anything and cause all problems.
      If one could rob and kill enough people the problem would be solved might be the implied solution from their point of view.

  9. It may be hoped that in time anybody will be able to persuade anybody of anything if he can catch the patient young and is provided by the State with money and equipment……
    This subject will make great strides when it is taken up by scientists under a scientific dictatorship. Anaxagoras maintained that snow is black, but no one believed him. The social psychologists of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. Various results will soon be arrived at. First, that the influence of home is obstructive. Second, that not much can be done unless indoctrination begins before the age of ten. Third, that verses set to music and repeatedly intoned are very effective. Fourth, that the opinion that snow is white must be held to show a morbid taste for eccentricity. . . . It is for future scientists to make these maxims precise and discover exactly how much it costs per head to make children believe that snow is black, and how much less it would cost to make them believe it is dark gray.
    Bertrand Russell

  10. I believe ice build up occurs in the absence of heat. At least that’s what was taught when I grew up.

    Biology Major from PSU (yea – the hockey stick school)

  11. Robert,

    The sea-ice crunched up against the coast of Newfoundland again this spring as well. I don’t know if ice-breakers were called in to help the trapped fishermen, but I do know at least one fishing boar was sunk.

    The psuedo-scientists again used that lame excuse, wherein they try to state that an increase in ice is caused by warming. The idea is that the ice would be frozen fast, if it was colder, but warming allows the ice to drift south.

    This idea is lame because the sea-ice was drifting in the exact same manner back in 1872-73. We know this because a group of sailors and Eskimos were separated from the doomed Polaris expedition, and drifted 1800 miles on a berg, from the very top of Baffin Bay to where they were rescued off the coast of Newfoundland.

    I wrote about it last March here:

    https://sunriseswansong.wordpress.com/2018/03/22/arctic-sea-ice-the-newfoundland-crunch/

  12. What catches my eye from that first link (translated) is..

    “Barber and his team confirmed that most of the ice that they saw near the coast of Newfoundland was indeed from the Arctic.”

    Exactly How did they determine that?

    It sounds like a possible covering up of the possibility that the ice buildup is occurring right where they encountered it – and not ‘from the arctic’ – which in turn would blow a hole in their No Cooling Agenda…

  13. I wonder what I am doing wrong? According to these global warming nuts, ice is growing because it is getting warmer. Well, that should mean that when my grandkids and I go get a snow cone, the ice in the cone should solidify and grow in size because it is 85+ degrees outside and global warming is the ruling principle. But our snow cone melts. Are we living in the wrong part of the country?

  14. 1. The climate is always changing; changes like those of the past half-century are common in the geologic record, driven by powerful natural phenomena
    2. Human influences on the climate are a small (1%) perturbation to natural energy flows
    3. It is not possible to tell how much of the modest recent warming can be ascribed to human influences
    4. There have been no detrimental changes observed in the most salient climate variables and today’s projections of future changes are highly
    uncertain

  15. In the inner suburbs of Washington D.C, it’s in the mid 50s during the daylight hours and has been raining all day very similar to winter rainstorms except for pockets of heavy rain that are causing flooding in the area. Average highs are lower 80s in early June with typical heat waves reaching 90s for a few days.

  16. As noted below this happened last year 2017.

    But, the Amundsen has set said again on May 25, 2018, out of the Quebec City port, giving it another go, in the name of climate change. Which will be interesting, as it has been a long and very cold winter along the west cost of Hudson Bay this year. Hudson Bay sea and lake ice is thick.

    A $17 million, 5 year research project will conclude what? When it seems to be starting with the conclusion climate change, aka global warming is happening. (Will reality have any say?)

    Of course happening at a time, when today solar panels and wind turbines are heavily being pushed by ENGO (wildlife) and both Governments for the arctic. And being put in place!

    Intermittent and unreliable electricity generation… just what’s needed for cold, dark winters messing with our steady purring diesel generators.

  17. Thanks Robert for your precious information.
    But I have a question that I just can not find an answer:
    but if there is global warming because the electricity bill keeps increasing? I live in Switzerland (in the south) and last year there was an increase of almost 1 Swiss franc per kWh.
    My husband and I are very careful about the use of electricity, but recently the electricity bill came and it was a shock!

  18. In my comment above I would like to emphasize that, in our home, we only have electric heaters!

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