Morphing into a full glacial period

Starting with massive continental wide snow blitzes

Morphing into a full glacial period

John Oglander

It is likely that the present trend towards another grand solar minimum will indeed bring on another “little ice age which itself morphs into a full glacial period.

There is a school of thought that the Sun is going into a hibernation mode. For me, the hibernation theory gives the best and only explanation as to how snow can survive in summer in the mid-latitudes; the Sun today is far too hot to allow snow to subsist in summer except in the mountains of the Arctic and on the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets. I have seen suggestions that a sudden hibernation mode would reduce the temperature of the Sun’s surface from 5 500 C to around 4 000 C, a massive drop of nearly 25% in heat output.

In addition the Earth is undergoing a Magnetic Reversal today which was not happening during the last “little ice age”. The resultant massive increase in cosmic rays, together with the memory of the still interglacial warm oceans, could give the new Ice Age a powerful start with massive continental wide snow blitzes which would be harder to generate when the oceans descend to ice age levels.


35 thoughts on “Morphing into a full glacial period”

  1. Pretty sure this is global cooling despite popular opinion. Where I live it should be 60-70 degrees F during the day and mid-40s at nights. A week ago people here thought winter was over as it should be here. Flowers were planted and everyone was getting ready for Spring and our long hot summer. But…NO DICE! Suddenly everything change instantly. We didn’t even hit 40 degrees F today and tonight is going to be in the low 20s. Tomorrow looks no better. I’ve lived her for 40 years and never seen anything like this is Feb.

  2. I think this is the REALITY. Commeth the ice! Yes warm oceans enable more evaporation which will produce more precipitation not rain but snow as the temperature (solar output) drops.

  3. To go into a full glacial period also take the Earth’s Orbit to go into a full glacial orbit which take the proper alignment of the other planets. Where are we in that orbital pattern??

    • As far as I can see we are many millenia away from the time when the Northern Hemisphere has summer coinciding with Perihelion.

      I really hope the Sun’s surface temperature doesn’t drop to about 4000°C !

      As far as I can see a drop in the surface temperature of the Sun from ~5500°C to ~4000°C would decrease the Sun’s emissions by about 70% not 25% – from ~62.98 million W/m2 to about 18.9 million W/m2.

      This would reduce the solar constant from the quoted average of ~1361 W/m2 TOA to ~409W/m2 calculated using blackbody radiation equations and the inverse square law.

      Mars has a solar radiance of ~586 W/m2 !

      If the output from the sun declined by the amount comparable to a surface temperature of ~4000° C the effect would be completely devastating for life on Earth !

      At least we wouldn’t have to worry about 0.042% CO2 in the atmosphere – most of it would “condense” out of the atmosphere under this scenario just like it does on Mars.

  4. Robert explains it all in his book.
    It is a multitude of cycles, converging to produce that big bang that will be the next glacial period, or ‘ice age’.
    For example, it is not JUST the Sun going into hibernation. The Milankovitch cycles are also nearing the stage for glacial conditions.
    Currently, the northern hemisphere experiences winter when the Earth is closest to the Sun, giving us relatively ‘mild’ winters, and summer when the Earth is furthest from the Sun, giving us relatively ‘mild’ summers.
    Once we start moving into the opposite position – Earth furthest from Sun during N.H. winter and closest during N.H. summer – this will bring about long, severely cold winters, and short hot summers. But the heat from these hot, but short, summers will not be enough to melt the growing ice sheets that will be created during the long, very cold winters.

  5. Guess what? The IPCC declared 2018 was the hottest year on record. Earlier today one Gavin Schmidt, ‘climatological expert’ appeared on Aljazeera TV, with visuals of calving glaciers (his knowledge of Geology obviously zilch), ice bears on a collapsing ice floe – the standard global warming rhetoric. List him for trial when the time comes.

    • Even though the coldest temperature ever recorded on Earth was in 2018, -144°F in Antarctica. At least their loyal to their lies I’ll give them that. Then again that’s the first rule of lying, stick to your story.

  6. dunno about “hibernation” sol wise
    but that massive coronal hole sure has taken a large swathe of the surface to dull mode
    and that same sunspot has now been CONSTANT for over 12 months!
    NASA isnt saying if theyre ever recorded anything like this happening before..i know in 10yrs of daily watching i have never seem a coronal hole come round more than a few times at most

    • There is a major difference between a Sun Spot which commences in the high latitudes of the solar disk, dissipates and moves, to reappear further towards the equator of the Sun atmosphere as the cycle progresses and lasts for less than 1 or slightly more than 1 rotations dependent on its size and a giant Coronial Hole which can be in position on the solar disk for 10 months or more as the Sun rotates every 28 days and takes up a significant proportion of the Sun’s atmosphere.
      The less important point of a sun spot is, it has a phage area around it which is the source of up 16% of the Suns UV and EUV emissions received by the Earth, Coronial holes do not feature this phage area.
      It might be a minor point for the Sun’s energy output, but it has massive implications for the Earth’s atmosphere which absorbs much of the UV, moderating our normal Meridional (wavy) style of Jetstream into the far more lateral one during the 5 years high energy portion of each solar cycle.
      Another point, is that very large, long lasting, Coronial holes happen during the latter 4 years of the solar cycle decline and the first two years of the rise to MAX, with Meridional Jet stream activity taking place during that 6 years period which is well over half of the average solar cycle of 11 yrs.
      SC 24 as a GSM cycle is likely to be very much shorters than an average cycle, ending towards the end of this year, roughly three quarters of this cycle have been low in UV, with the Jet streams meridional in nature. SC25 is more than likely to be the same, as each of the named two cycle GSMs have been since the OOrt GSM, soon the be followed by WOLF which marked the start of the LIA and the end pf the Medieval Warm Period.

    • Oh, wow. This is one I’ve not heard of — could you tell us more? Where are you seeing this? I thought we’d had a bunch of zero-sunspot days in 2018, but I haven’t been paying super close attention. Seriously interested here!

  7. Climate charlatans’ spurious narratives aside, despite atmospheric CO2 up 30.2% to 405 ppm from 1950, given post-Chixculub Cretaceous/Tertiary (K/T Boundary) eras’ mean 12 – 16 million-year duration, Earth’s astro-geophysical inflected cooling pattern should persist another 12 – 14 million years.
    Per median 12,250-year interstadials such as the Holocene Interglacial Epoch beginning 14,400 YBP, plus periodic plate-tectonic Ice Ages over 3.6 million years, Earth’s latest glacial remission ended AD 1350 with a 500-year Little Ice Age (LIA) through AD 1850/1890, followed by a 140-year “amplitude compression” rebound through AD 2030 (amplitude extremes are inversely proportional to a time-series’ frequency and wavelength).
    As this final 20-year chill phase shades to a 70-year Grand Solar Minimum through 2100+, similar to that of AD 1645 – 1715, reduced Total Solar Irradiance (TSI) renders generational warming physically impossible in face of the 102-kiloyear Pleistocene Ice Time beginning 669 years back.
    Regarding Industrial Revolution “anthropogenic CO2 emissions” from c. 1725, Australian researcher Robert Holmes definitively showed in December 2017 that all planets in Earth’s solar system exhibit global atmospheric surface temperatures (GAST) = PM/Rp, setting Atmospheric Pressure P times Mean Molar Mass M over its Gas Constant R times Atmospheric Density p. Applying this relation from Mercury through Neptune, zero error-margins attest that there is no empirical or mathematical basis for any “forced” carbon-accumulation factor (CO2) affecting temperatures on Planet Earth.
    Cyclical reality bites deep: First, Earth’s Holocene Interglacial Epoch ended the Medieval Warm in AD 1350, beginning a 500-year, carbon-neutral Little Ice Age through 1850/1890. Second, the current 140-year rebound from this LIA is ending with a fiercely chill “dead sun” absence of cyclic sunspots, due to persist 70 years to AD 2100+. Third, coinciding with an overdue Magnetic Pole Reversal stripping away Earth’s “plasma sheath” shielding cosmic rays, radical declines in TSI presage recurrent 102-kiloyear Pleistocene glaciations covering 70% of Earth’s habitable landmasses with ice sheets 2.5 miles thick.
    As brutal chill grips Earth’s 3.7 billion naïvely unaware inhabitants, Luddite sociopaths sabotaging global energy economies will have mega-deaths to answer for.

    • I’m a Luddite(actually a permacultural, agrarian, minimalist, antiprogressive) but I also would love global warming and love CO2. They aren’t Luddites. They just think they deserve to live more and better than you.

    • Yes since 1970, when for them electronic records began.
      They discount the cold and warm records generated during the Gleissberg period and the cycles SC10 to SC14 within that period as they do for early records from the Dalton GSM period.
      Even Sun Spot records, recorded since 1700 and the start of SC01 have been not been affected by data fraud up to 1960 but since by the simple effect of changing the counting gaol posts from recording Spots which could be seen by a 40MM X20 optic to an optic now used at 155MM and above.
      http://www.landscheidt.info/images/sc5_sc24_1.png
      Only when conditions were right could Wolf see fragments of spots, now we can see a pimple on a fly’s bottom from miles away. The records since the nineteen seventies cannot be compares to those of Dalton 1790 to 1820 because of the mass of fragment spots added to the numbers of full sized spot since the 1970s. Yet those fragment spots were there for every GSM seen by Man.
      For stars like Sol which are affected by solar Barycentric AM this page is instructive:
      http://www.landscheidt.info/?q=node/202
      Science has made massive strides with manual analogue devices such as the mercury thermometer and observers taking manual written records which are signed off by experienced managers within the recording organisation.
      Paper records are hard to falsify which is why many of them have been destroyed by the very organisation NOAA, at the heart of this conspiracy to defraud tax payers money promoting CAGW.

  8. This looking more and more like the onsite of a full on glacial period that will last the next 100,000+ years as Robert described in his book.

  9. For Ken … the Orbital pattern you are looking for will occur the winter of 2024 in the northern hemisphere. The Solar and earths orbital patterns will put the earth and sun at their most maximum distances from each other for that winter period. Good Luck to us all.

  10. It is certainly coming. Just difficult to know exactly when we’ll see a full blown ice age or a magnetic reversal. All 4 of these so called ice ages are due immediately, however.

    The little ice age
    The 1,400 year cycle
    The 11,500 magnetic reversal cycle
    The orbital stretch cycle (orbital eccentricity)

    It sure wouldn’t hurt to stock up on food. (something I haven’t really started yet)

  11. I’m having a hard time believing any of this cold weather will ever affect the American southeast anymore! It’s so warm right now our trees and flowers are starting to bloom! Probably hit 80 or above in Georgia today.Yet,it will get back to normal soon,though highs are suppose to get back into the 60,s next week that still 10+ above average!

  12. Lloyd Martin Hendaye, which 3.7 B are you talking about? :
    “As brutal chill grips Earth’s 3.7 billion naïvely unaware inhabitants,”

    There are approx 7.5 B of us now, and I’d guess that far fewer than half have any idea of what’s really about to happen/is happening…probably about 1/10. A depressing thought, but there are few of us who habitually read for knowledge (in those few, I do include anyone reading this site: after all, it’s very interesting to those who want to have a clue, but observing what the warmunist oppposition (I’ll just call them “pinheads”) is up to can be very depressing, and even retch-inducing, rather than entertaining). So. most just dial their brain to “keep snoozing, stupid” and keep watching the evil, ignorant, mistaken, gullible Lying Mainstream News puppets.
    Essentially, one who reads this site, and a few others, is someone who can not STAND being lied to on a regular basis.
    In case any wonder…yes, I got rid of my last TV in 2004, and highly recommend that to everyone.
    I was 54 then, and figured, “How many of my remaining yrs do I want to waste watching car ads, leftist propaganda, the “parrot the allowed gov’t history” con, and anti-male sitcoms? I’ve taken a number of steps out of The Matrix; that was a huge one, and not regretted at all.

  13. Ke131 or Ken, could you please let me know where I can learn more about these orbital patterns? Any links?

  14. IMO, we are going to a weather regime similar to the 1965-1975, when the consensus was that a glaciation would surely ensue. It didn’t happen despite many dire predictions.
    Then came all this baloney of CO2 and cAGW killing the planet, so much utter nonsense.

    The way I see it is if we are lucky an extended period like the early-mid1970s will ensue, for about 5 to 15 years (through the next solar cycle). If we are unlucky then it’ll be a Dalton minimum type cooling.
    If however, we are very unlucky then it’s a Maunder minimum type of cooling for a much longer period.

    Not a glaciation but with all these scenarios enough is done to really stress (overstress?) current Western ideas of off-shore manufacturing, and ‘just-in-time’ supply chains.
    Before then wind and solar electricity generation will be seen for the joke they are, and if they are not, then those societies still stupidly relying on them deserve all the calamity that comes their way. Well how many kWHrs of electricity was generated and supplied to all American customer by wind and solar during the ‘polar vortex’ months in the US? And how much is wind and solar rated to supply for all USA, and at what total installation cost including lost of agricultural land?

  15. Much colder winter here in Southern Utah, and consistently cold, only a very few days when we have been up to the high 50’s or the 60’s this winter. Usually, it’s golf weather, and we start having 55 to 60 degree highs most days, from about mid-January on, but we’ve consistently had highs in the low 40s since around Thanksgiving, and this week was the coldest yet, barely above freezing for a couple of days. A lot of trees are usually budding by mid January, no sign of that yet, though we’ve had lots of sunshine, intermittent with some good rains, with lots of snow up on the mountains and hills around St. George, the most snow I’ve seen for several years.

    One of my utility bills shows the average temp for the month, and for the same month last year, and we have been running about 5 to 7 degrees colder than last year since November, although last year was probably a warmer than usual winter. Last summer was hot, as always, but I don’t think we ever hit 110, or if so, just barely. Every year for the last 20, since I’ve lived here, we have had a stretch of 110 to 115 days in late June and/or early July, until 2018, and last spring was unbelievably mild until well into June. In past years, we have sometimes been over 100 by the beginning of April, at times, and frequently so in May.

  16. Lloyd describes CO2 increasing by over 30%. However in terms of total atmospheric gases, the increase is about 80 to 100 parts per million. Which is 1 part per 10,000 or an increase of less than 1 hundredth of a percent in terms of molecules of gas in our atmosphere. Is this really of any concern?

  17. Hey 32 for a high here in Austin, Texas today with a bit of snow and sleet. (Average high 58) Sure it can happen but why is it home pages like MSN tell us every winter was the warmest ever? By who’s measurements using who’s thermometers and placed where?

  18. Its interesting to see the unusually cold weather starting at the higher elevations first. Could this be due to the shrinkage in the thermosphere thats being observed? Wont be long before the lower elevations follow suit.

  19. I was watching our new darlings of the DNC and the green new deal in front of the camera. It hit me…they will be the first ones of this massive over population to suffer unending cold. These are the urban dwellers…you know, the ones that cant live out side of concrete, asphalt, steel and glass. Modern materials are great to freeze and the cold the well.
    Obviously having -50 degree temps for a few days hasn’t made people consider “what if…” and think maybe they have been sheeple.

  20. “would reduce the temperature of the Sun’s surface … to around 4 000 C” – not going to happen. The sun is almost a perfect black body radiator. A drop from 5500C to 4000C would move the spectral peak from the green-yellow region to the deep red region. Sun light would be heavily red. Plants would likely die from this change.

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