Sea levels falling in Australia – Huh? Falling?

Sea levels are rising because of global warming … and sea levels are falling because of global warming. Hmmmm.


13 Mar 2017 – Thousands of hectares of mangroves in Australia’s remote north “died of thirst” last year, scientists announced today,

According to researchers from Australia’s James Cook University, some 7,400 hectares (18,000 acres), stretching 1,000 km (600 miles) across the semi-arid Gulf of Carpentaria, perished,

The area where mangroves are either dead or defoliated “was confirmed by aerial and satellite surveys, with subsequent analysis of weather and climate records leading to the conclusion that they died of thirst.”

World-renowned mangrove ecologist Norm Duke, from James Cook University, said three factors came together to produce the event.

Those factors included below-average rainfall in the area, temperatures at record levels in the area and thirdly, “some mangroves were left high and dry as the sea level dropped about 20 centimetres (eight inches) during a particularly strong El Nino.” (Emphasis added)

So there you have it: High temperatures can cause sea-level rises in one part of the world while causing sea-level declines in other parts of the world. How convenient.

http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Huge_swathe_of_Australian_mangroves_die_of_thirst_999.html

Thanks to Stephen Bird and Laurel for this link




I may have read a bigger load of bullshit,” says Laurel. “I just cant remember when;-) Tell me how an ocean manages an 8 INCH drop in one coastline only????”

26 thoughts on “Sea levels falling in Australia – Huh? Falling?”

  1. This us why so much talk about sea levels is complete B.S.

    Between 1994 and September 2016 the continent of Australia had drifted North East by 4.9 feet or 149 cm’s.
    How many cm’s up or down is arbitrary.

    Continental drift makes a complete nonsense of sea level figures.

    And then. The consequences of these continental drifts on the earths geology. Earthquakes, Volcanic activity etc.

    See this article per example : http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/09/australia-moves-gps-coordinates-adjusted-continental-drift/

    The Australian magnetic declination has massively shifted in a short time frame as well. All part of the rapid shift of the North magnetic pole.

    How much does this continental drift have in relation to the shifting of the poles? I suspect Robert may have some answer to this question.

  2. Just guessing, but it might be persistent high temp equals persistent high atmospheric pressure that is localized roughly to the region which in turn lowers the average sea water height relative to the land surface.
    Still guessing, but El Nino could cause this to happen in northern Australia.

    1. Warm water expands, cold water contracts. Absent any other effects, a cold pool of water will be lower than a warm pool, just from the expansion or contraction of water. In an El Nino, reversing trade winds pile Pacific Ocean water up in the Eastern Pacific and lower it in the Western Pacific. Warm water pushed to the east results in a rise in water level in the east and a drop in water level to the west. When the La Nina forms, enhanced trade winds push the water to the west, lowering the sea level in the east and pulling up cold-upwelling water, which will also lower sea levels in the east. These features have been going on for millennia. Nothing to see here, move on.

  3. The important talking points are:
    1. Climate change is 100% caused by human activity and 97% of scientists agree.
    2. Climate change causes drought and floods, wind and calm, rising and falling sea levels, in addition to famine, plague, cancer, unhappiness and assorted, other malapropos effects.
    3. Everyone must equally bear the immense cost of reversing this horror unless you are an exploited, third world victim or a climatista elite.
    4. If this is not immediately attacked, Earth will be a dying hell within 10 20 30 years real soon now!

    1. Quote:
      1. Climate change is 100% caused by human activity and 97% of scientists agree.
      2. Climate change causes drought and floods, wind and calm, rising and falling sea levels, in addition to famine, plague, cancer, unhappiness and assorted, other malapropos effects.
      3. Everyone must equally bear the immense cost of reversing this horror unless you are an exploited, third world victim or a climatista elite.
      4. If this is not immediately attacked, Earth will be a dying hell within 10 20 30 years real soon.
      Comment: You are a victim of socialist propaganda, designed to take political and economic power and return it to the Great and Good socialists, dictators, religious extremists who are in the majority within the UN. The people who will pay for it with their liberty and tax slavery will be the working class of the West and the economic disenfranchised of Africa.
      The 97% you refer to are the 67 Climate Ologists who answered 4 questions correctly in a biased AGW poll. See propaganda above.
      5. Climate Change is 100% caused by the Sun’s energy output over many different cycles, some as little as 80 years, another 172 year, and others many years. CO2 levels lag temperature.
      Both Warming and Cooling Climate change causes drought and floods, wind and calm, rising and falling sea levels, in addition to famine, plague, cancer, unhappiness and assorted, other malapropos effects. Over the last 140000 year cycle, sea levels have dropped 140M and risen back to the same levels. Adapt and prosper.

      6. Everyone must equally bear the immense cost of reversing this horror unless you are an exploited, third world victim or a climatista elite.

      No – Everyone should support a truly democratic form of government, rather than the jobs for the boys style government that the EU has at the moment and still can’t police or even defend its own borders. We can start by reforming that clutch of criminals in the UN.
      Everyone should support truth from scientist and not a bunch of Ologists barking up the wrong tree

      4. If this is not immediately attacked, Earth will be a dying hell within 10 20 30 years real soon now!

      You live on a dangerous planet, if you can’t cope with that get off it.

        1. So was I with the last sentence.
          Everybody has the right to have an opinion, either right or wrong. For the last forty years my opinion and I hope the rest of the silent majority, has been shouted down by the proponents of entryist climate politics, who wish to impoverish the world, and remove most of the human population, so that the majority of the worlds land space can return to being a wild zone in the same way Africa was in the 16th century.
          Sarcastic AGW Bovine excreta such as those in the four points above needs to be replied to at every utterance, otherwise our fickle politicians return to the dark side, as they have bigger pockets to pick. After all, they stole the money from us via their taxes and climate levies one dollar at a time.

      1. If you have ever studied climate on the geological time scale, you will know an important truth…The only thing constant about climate is that it is continuously changing, sometimes drastically, sometimes slowly.

        The only way to show that mankind is changing the world climate beyond what Nature is capable of doing on its own is to fabricate the observations.

    2. AGW theory rests on a “Green house” effect that simply does not exist. The Earth is not a sealed jar. CO2 is not creating a warmer world. In fact levels of atmospheric CO2 have zero effect on climate. Even during the ages of the dinosaurs and the amphibians, when levels of atmospheric CO2 were two thousand times greater than they are today, nevertheless Ice Ages still came and went as ever before and since. Warming or cooling, which ever way around it is, I suspect that it is all in the imagination. Hallucination. Mass insanity. Mass hysteria. Politics and religion have something in common. Both are mass hysteria. We have to be careful. I say this : Only believe to be the truth, that which has been proven to be the truth, by the scientific method. Political and religious extremists are trying to hijack science so as to be able to twist it according to their doctrines of the faith. AGW is a religious doctrine. A theory that is still not yet a proven scientific fact. Those who believe in it do so very religiously. Remember that not so long time ago everyone believed that the Earth was flat.

      1. The important thing that the environmentalist activists conveniently ignore is that CO2 is critical to plant growth. Plants evolved in a CO2 rich atmosphere, several times higher than now. Plants are actually starving for CO2…the equivalent of us living at 15,000′ and starving for oxygen. As the CO2 levels have increased, the satellites are recording the increased greening of the world. If the environmental activists were as concerned about protecting the planet as they claim, they would demand that we produce more CO2 and hang the effects on humans. Instead, their actions expose their real mission which is to drastically reduce human population levels by eliminating our ability to survive in a high technology world/

  4. Most probably, Continental Drift combined with some proximal unknown earth quake activity has created a Continental Land Mass Rise of 8 inches in that specific area. Perhaps, you have heard of Climate Change – This is Geological Change, (Not Man Made). Happens all the time in specific localized area’s on a World wide basis. Yellow Stone is a good example.

    Linden

  5. Hewre’s another one for you.

    If you one day choose to drive between the Australian state capitals of Adelaide and Perth – a distance of 2,700 kilometers then you will pass through the Nullarbor (no trees) plain.
    If you happen to get out of your vehicle on the Nullarbor plain you can bend down and pick up sea shells and other ocean debris.

    Not that long ago the Nullabor plain and parts of the Australian desert were under the ocean.

    1. Not under the ocean: Duncan Roads (editor of Nexus Magazine) once posted on a forum that he was told of a secret city council meeting to discuss the discovery that about every 200 years there is a 1 mile+ high tsunami hits the eastern coast – enough to go over the Great Dividing Range.

      THAT is where the sea shells come from.

      Captain Cook visited 240+ years ago.

    2. Interesting about the sea shells in the Nullarbor Plain in Australia. I have heard similar reportage from other inland areas too. Certainly land masses go up and down. Isostatic readjustments during and after Ice Ages. Continental drift due to Plate Tectonics. Also my favourite is Mega Tsunami washing deep inland due to massive earthquakes that are off the scale, but thankfully only occur once in a million years.

    1. Rise and fall.
      Some parts of Aceh rose 9 metres after the 2004 Mag 9 earthquake. Coral reefs which had been submerged were thrust far out of the water by the earth movement.

      Continental shift will cause much upthrust of the surface. The Rockies are upthrust.

    2. It is highly likely that as land masses have a significantly higher density that the oceans and the land masses are all above ocean level then the land masses are very, very slowly sinking giving the impression of sea level rises or the significantly lighter ocean plates are rising with the same effect.

      All of the fractured crust is “floating” on the mantle which “is predominantly solid but in geological time it behaves as a very viscous fluid.”

    3. Also, in the Northern Hemisphere, mile-high glaciers covered much of north America, Europe, and Asia, with the weight of the ice pushing down the land mass. As the ice melted, the land slowly rose, inches per century, and continues to rise.

  6. Some pictures of the 2016 Kaikoura Earthquake zone in New Zealand, could be taken by some as the sea falling, or by others as the land rising.
    It was the land rising in some places as much as 20 feet after the earthquake.
    Paua or abalone stranded on miles of waterfront now above sea level died in their hundreds of thousands.
    But ins’t it funny how we rarely hear about the land falling into the ocean, OH NO it must be the sea rising.

  7. without any correct data about what is going on deep into the earth, it is meaningless to interprete this phenomenea in a meaningfull way. Having a meaning about it, reflects more or less the way one is looking to the world.

  8. Has it ever occurred to this stupid lunatic that sea levels are dropping because of all-time record ice “growth” in Greenland and Antarctica??? That’s why sea levels are falling.

    1. And, arid regions of the world are swallowing vast quantities of rain fall recharging artesian storage areas, with Australia and the Sahara being the most arid.
      A cubic metre of pure water at the temperature of maximum density (3.98 °C or 39.16 °F) and standard atmospheric pressure (101.325 kPa) has a mass of 1000 kg, or one tonne. Trillions of tonnes of water are being deposited on arid places and are being absorbed out of sight, and then are being released 10s of years later. Its only lakes or frozen water which can be seen on the surface of the world.

  9. The wind can create 30 foot waves, so it’s not hard to believe that there can be depressions in the ocean surfaces at any given time, methinks. The caveat is that what goes out, comes back when the pressure is off. Unless the water level is an enclosed pool I don’t think evaporation has much influence and hence, gorebull warming, IM(notso)HO. 😉

    1. Quote: “I don’t think evaporation has much influence”
      Your only 180 degrees in the opposite direction in this statement!
      Evaporation of water from the energy captured from the Sun, on a vast multi trillion ton scale, is what drives the planetary climate. Without it, no life can exist on this planet.
      The true Green House Gas on Earth and in the Goldilocks zone is water vapour.
      According to NASA (the non AGW Ologists lot) the entire collection of water on the planet would fit into a globe 800 miles in diameter, most if not all arrived during the Heavy bombardment some 3.85 billion years ago, with basic life starting shortly after.
      What’s really interesting that in the Jovian Gas Giants cold zone, Methane is the equivalent, I wonder what life the moons of the gas Giants will produce, particularly once the Sun converts into a Red Giant in 4 billion or so years from now.

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